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Tanto Minchiata's avatar

This is very complicated. Only the most in depth expert analysis can parse out all the elements of this conundrum. Let me do my best to put the situation under context. Joe Biden is a piece of shit. Anthony Blinken is a piece of shit. The U.S. Democrat party are a piece of shit and so are a good number of Republicans . Qatar is a piece of shit country run by corrupt islamofascist pieces of shit. I hope that’s not too complicated. I could make it more complicated, but it’s not. We have an air base in Qatar. We could use that to vaporize the royal family. Qatar is a tiny country that supports terrorism. The Saudis hate them. The rest of the gulf states are not too keen on them. They are in league with Iran. We do not need their oil or gas.,They are harboring terrorists who just killed dozens of Americans and took Americans hostage. Tell them to hand over the Hamas leaders or be blown off the face of the earth. Give them 24 hours.

Rikard's avatar

Quatar is about 4 400 square miles. A 1-megaton warhead would kill anyone within a one-mile radius, air-burst with nothing inbetween.

Offer the quatari to drop a 5-megaton warhead on them every 24 hours, until the leaders of Hamas are offered up as turkeys for Thanksgiving?

Tanto Minchiata's avatar

You don’t even need to go radioactive. Tell them that a few MOABS on the Royal palaces and some daisy cutters on their oil production facilities are on the way and done deal. They will hand over the Hamas billionaires in a heartbeat. Then they will fly to Monaco and party like its 1999.

Pangolin Chow Mein's avatar

Trump dropped a MOAB on ISIS in Afghanistan in 2017…it didn’t stop terrorism.

Pangolin Chow Mein's avatar

You do realize Qatar helped Trump cut a deal with the Taliban to end our forever war and bring our troops home?? Of course to a Cheney Republican every problem can be solved by dropping a 5-megaton warhead on Muslims. ;)

Rikard's avatar

Hey hey! It's Gene Frenkel! He's back!

How many Substacks are you perma-banned from nowadays?

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Wizard's avatar

I prefer it when you zips are blunt like you instead of this "war is bad" or this "self-defense" nonsense. You don't even pretend to care about human life like Schachtel does. Your cold-blooded psychopathic mindset is on full display, and I thank you for it.

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Tanto Minchiata's avatar

I would say that the upside to Israel approaches zero. They have to fight wars that they may not win including not only Hamas, but possibly Hezbollah and Iran. So that could be an existential crisis for the country in terms of its survival. Ultimately they are fighting for survival. Yes I know that our government in the United States is engaged in a number of nefarious activities. And in general government tends to attract some bad people. And I know that Israel and the USA helped to foster Hamas as an entity decades ago. But I would say to you, that you have no evidence that Israel knew about this attack ahead of time. Zero. So I'd be careful speculating in that regard. And regardless of the back story, Hamas needs to go. It's one thing to say that a government may have known about an impending attack. It's another thing to commit atrocities. Hamas committed atrocities.

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Jessica Bourque's avatar

Amir from behold Israel described what happened with the intelligence. Biden had an Iranian Spy Ring in his administration if you haven’t hear about Robert Malley under investigation I’d go read. Also when I start hearing the poor Palestine ppl story I remind them that they had planned this attack on Israel for a year and didn’t have a plan to get the Palestine ppl out of harms way knowing the repercussions of what they were about to do. Israel has tried everything for peace but Muslims don’t want that. They want Jews dead so the only option is to level Gaza. I don’t blame them. Biden has our border wide open and these terrorist have been coming through and believe me 9/11 will be nothing compared to what they have planned for us here. This is a treasonous administration all I can do is pray

Tanto Minchiata's avatar

The thing is Netanyahu could barely cobble together a government. He was under intense pressure because of the judicial reform issue. He’s hanging on by a thread. So he’s going to allow a potentially existential threat with massacred Jews. which he knew would result in vehement criticism of his government to happen? I don’t buy that. Besides being grotesquely sadistic and unpatriotic, it’s way too risky. I don’t see it. 🤷🏼

Tanto Minchiata's avatar

The Egypt angle has been denied by the Egyptian government. That was fake news.

Israel gets 4 billion dollars a year in loan guarantees and that is 100% used to buy US weapons. The U.S. does this not because of the lobbying of Jews, but because it suits their objectives in foreign policy and militarily. The U.S. doesn’t have a lot of arms to send. Israel has its own weapons industry. They need ammo. That’s what the U.S. is sending. The goal here is not to have the U.S. fighting. It’s for Israel to kick ass and rid themselves of a constant existential threat. Israel has to worry about survival. It’s not about playing global games.

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Tanto Minchiata's avatar

Yes, it may happen. But the US has been helping Iran. Why would they want Israel to attack them? The Biden Admin and Obama gave them billions for their nuclear program.. Whatever. Time will tell.

Cattexas's avatar

Thank you. I didn’t know Qatar is the Hamas base. They don’t live in Palestine, just direct the terrorism. And US is comfortable with this.

BradK (Tuckered out)'s avatar

Funny how all we hear about the suffering of the dirt poor citizens of Gaza and how they have little beyond the shoes on their feet, while their true "leadership" lives in obscene luxury -- and safety -- all the while they are the ones truly responsible for the suffering in Gaza.

And they're all wearing Western business attire instead of Keffiyehs and cammo? What's up with that? So much for "traditional Islamic culture". At least the Qataris and Saudis make an attempt at dressing for the role.

Rikard's avatar

Billions of dollars per year in foreign aid - from "infidels" no less, since the other moslem nations give them not even the "smell of the loaf", has to be spent somehow you know.

Want to p*ss off the swiss, channel islands, and other such places? Suggest they open their ledgers to show who has which accounts, with how much in them and where the money comes from.

It's a real conversation-killer.

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Wizard's avatar

Come on man, they have a right to self defense.

Billy G's avatar

Hamas is an Israeli creation, they’ve admitted this, just as al-Qaeda is a creation of cia. Makes of this what you will.

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BradK (Tuckered out)'s avatar

They have become...Westernized.

Danimal28's avatar

Yep, Qatar is the money laundering base for the Muslim Brotherhood with Western cash as Ukraine is for Western cash.

Pangolin Chow Mein's avatar

Tillerson is pretty much a member of the Qatar royal family because XOM invested billions of windfall profits into Qatar’s LNG industry…obviously Qatar failed to prevent this attack but Israeli intelligence also failed to prevent the attack. Qatar is on our side and we need them as a back-channel to vile terrorist organizations around the world. Btw, Kushner and Trump did Saudi’s bidding and attempted to marginalize Qatar and then in 2018 Trump changed course and employed Qatar to cut a deal with the Taliban.

Tanto Minchiata's avatar

Back channel? Are you crazy? Don’t answer that. Yes, you are. The Qataris bought a bunch of US whores. Just like China. Blow them to kingdom come. Trump would. Biden won’t.

Pangolin Chow Mein's avatar

Qatar facilitated Trump’s surrender to the Taliban…you sound like a Cheney Republican.

Tanto Minchiata's avatar

You sound like every halfwit libtard with a liberal arts degree working at Anthropology and living in mommy's spare bedroom. Get out of your pajamas and get a fucking job. Your dad wants to retire. ( I am on fire today. lol )

Pangolin Chow Mein's avatar

Wow, a real live Cheney Republican in the wild!! Be very quiet or they will spend trillions of dollars bombing you to make terrorism worse!! ;)

Tanto Minchiata's avatar

Uh, Dick Cheney lives up to his first name, and his daughter does too. I'm a Trump deplorable and a Zionist. Trump 2024.

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Pangolin Chow Mein's avatar

That a just how diplomacy works. Trump cut a deal with the Taliban in Qatar.

Tanto Minchiata's avatar

Qatar is an outlier among the Gulf States. Violence is never the answer, except when it is.

Pangolin Chow Mein's avatar

“All the problems outside of America and Europe can be solved by dropping a 5-megaton bomb on Muslims.”

Liz Cheney R-WY, voted into GOP leadership in January 2021

Danimal28's avatar

Trump sent 52 cruise missiles up Syria's ass and one Hellfire down the throat of the worlds leading terrorist(Soleimani). Prior to that he unleashed American hydrocarbon energy thereby neutering Russia, Iran, Iraq, and NKorea. Peace and prosperity.

Pangolin Chow Mein's avatar

The fracking revolution happened under Obama. Putin’s senseless invasion of Ukraine is what took our production to the next level and now we are energy dominant…and the Trump’s of the world hate it. Btw, Israel will eventually be an energy exporter which is why Hamas is like a rat trapped in a corner.

Danimal28's avatar

The fracking revolution happened DESPITE Obama. Joe Biden cut all hydrocarbon energy development hence the rise in the price of oil due to supply and demand.. In addition, the Bush cartel is now selling our LNG to western Europe at 7X what it is sold here, just like during the Bush years. We have the ability to be energy dependent as during the Trump years leading to a complete neutering of Russia, Iran, and NKorea, but the UniParty doesn't benefit from that, sir. Control of the supply of oil matters to them, not the free market.

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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

Fitting that the last two world cups were hosted by Russia and Qatar. The next one will be jointly hosted by America, Castro Jrs dictatorship, and the cartels.

Pangolin Chow Mein's avatar

What are the three most important natural gas producers—natural gas is now the most important fossil fuel and America just happens to be the Saudi Arabia of natural gas.

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Pangolin Chow Mein's avatar

I personally make a lot of natural gas…but the vast majority of methane we burn for fuel is in fact fossil fuel.

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Tanto Minchiata's avatar

There is another school of thought on this, promulgated in other countries that oil is a natural geological product which is not based in plant matter, but is CONTINUOUSLY produced by geological processes in the Earth. Thus explains why we are not running out of “fossil” fuels despite exceeding reserve estimates over time.

Pangolin Chow Mein's avatar

Methane is continuously produced…oil is yesterday’s news, it’s 2023!

Pangolin Chow Mein's avatar

Methane can be made pretty quickly in nature…and methane can be converted into diesel and kerosene.

Bert Powers's avatar

Jimmy Carter comes to mind. Our enemies smell weakness and fear. I smell corruption.

Danimal28's avatar

"Robert has appeared on 60 Minutes, The History Channel, CNBC, Business News Network, CBC, and PBS."

Tells a story. Other sources?

SD's avatar

One would think the western world would have done something about that Hamas leadership and expended the resources to do to that leadership the same as Osama Bin Lid. I disagree with the "Nazi:" extermination analogy, 1400 vs 3m is not even close. A massacre in any context is a massacre. When we label things in such a manner it widens that divide we are so happy to put between ourselves.Those who hate us go out of their way and have been for decades to encourage us to seperate into race, colour ideology, religion, political, or any other "Class:" so they can "Divide and Conquer." Quite successfull at it as well. Australians demonstrated yesterday they have woken up a little and shut down the attempt by the Leftists in this country to divide us on "Race".

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Seymour Hersh – Oct. 12, 2023 – Netanyahu is Finished -- The Bibi doctrine—his belief that he could control Hamas—compromised Israeli security and has now begat a bloody war

Hamas was promoted and financed for years by “our beloved” Bibi, who believed that Arafat’s secular PLO was a more serious enemy. Hamas was also rejecting a two-state solution just like Bibi and his extremists who together with US sabotaged a two-state solution for decades.

https://substack.com/inbox/post/137880462

voza0db's avatar

Well Jordan... We[you] need to start reading more Israeli news and learn more about Israel & Hamas LLC partnership!

Hamas is not a terrorist organization. Ask Bibi!

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Yep... No matter which jester or aspiring-jester takes the "job"!

https://postimg.cc/zbLXg0Nc

Boris Petrov's avatar

How do you describe a country (US) that totally supports, militarily and financially, TWO countries (U + I) with Nazi-dominated governments?

A TWO-state solution ( which was sabotaged for decades by both apartheid Bibi/US and Hamas ) – NOW

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Norman J Pieniazek's avatar

Thank you, Jordan.

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Billy G's avatar

I couldn’t have said it better. People see the horrific scenes over and over on television and they can’t see the forest for the trees. If they ever did. It’s all high octane emotion with no reason.

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Billy G's avatar

I find it amazing that as soon as the words “conspiracy theorist “ are invoked , peoples minds turn off. I had someone close to me tell me that the protocols were a fake, a forgery. I said, even if someone forged them, they were uncovered 100 years ago and whoever forged them were prophets. Charlotte Iserbyt tried to warn America about the dumbing down in the schools.

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Rikard's avatar

Yep. Can only comment under others' comments, not under the article. No "Post" button appearing.

Thought it was a "me"-issue at first, that I had p*ssed someone off so I was blocked from commenting.

Zelkova's avatar

I had that problem on another stack before. I get these glitches now and then.

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Billy G's avatar

The Ukraine = Israel

Israel = the Ukraine

I would very much doubt that many residing in Israel have any Semitic blood in them. These are people that have come from various parts of Europe, particularly Eastern Europe.

As a people, they were finally conquered and forced out the Eurasian area they resided by the Russians 1000 years ago .There is an ancient hatred for both Russia and the Ukraine by these people. The narrative being painted by the media and that has been painted in academia for a long time deficient.

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SD's avatar

National Socialists, crawl out of the same cesspool the Communists, Globalists and every other ideologically driven "Authoritarian" group spawn from. The worst of the worst in humanity who's only interest is "Control of the many by the few". As for your proclaiming "for us to make real progress...." Speak for yourself and your cancerous ideology. I have just spent two years within the National Socialist movement and the people within it are no better than the dirt bags in Hamas who want to exterminate anyone who does not agree with their narrative.

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