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Oct 25, 2023Liked by Jordan Schachtel

It is my understanding in reviewing of archaeological & historical records including Josephus, Philo and others that the actual entomological title “Palestine” was created by Roman Emperor Titus and his Generals. They had carried out a brutal siege and destruction of Jerusalem and the 2nd Temple in 70 AD (CE). Over a million Jews mostly all civilian including the hideous brutal murder of pregnant women & children. After this attempted genocide the Romans hated the Jews so much that Emperor Titus wanted to terminally desecrate the Jews perpetuity and thus renamed this geographical area after the arch enemies of the Jews - the Philistines. The Philistians had long since been completely destroyed as a people’s & nation. The Latin translation of Philistia was Palestine. As well described in this publication above, multiple different ill-defined peoples did live in this region including the Amonoites (Modern day northern Jordan), Moabites (modern day central Jordan) and Idumeans (modern day southern Jordan.

The publication of “Innocents Abroad”

by Samuel Clemons (Mark Twain) who was neither a Jew or a Christian but likely an agnostic, described his observations of “Palestine” in 1869. There was NOBODY in “Palestine” and he described it as a God forsaken wasteland that was uninhabitable. This is consistent with multiple major & minor prophets (17) in the Torah / Old Testament where it is repeatedly prophesied that the land would never flourish until the Jews returned. Read it. It has been literally fulfilled like thousands of other prophecies in the Judaeo-Christian scriptures.

An important question that all should ask is why every generation since creation of man has had an evil preoccupation with to eliminating the Jews and wipe them off the face the earth. No other people/nation come any where close to the Jews in this regard. The Hamans, Titus, Hitlers & Iranian Mullahs have recurred in every generation of human history. Why?

There is a simple answer to this question but it cannot be answered without a complete understanding of the spiritual realm that is very clearly and firmly established in the Torah / Old Testament.

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I can't take seriously a narrative of "the roots of Palestinian identity, free from any false or propagandistic fodder" that completely omits any of the well-documented historical facts of the 1948 Nakba.

https://ifamericansknew.org/history/origin.html

It doesn't matter what these people called themselves or what their national aspirations were. That's just obfuscating criminal conduct and human suffering. They were there, and they were murdered en masse, and forcibly evicted from their generational homes. Women and children! Noncombatants.

Honest Israelis, common people, acknowledge this festering wound at the center of their own national identity. You'd do well to listen to them and take another step back from the propaganda machine.

https://www.scottritterextra.com/p/why-i-no-longer-stand-with-israel

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Oct 24, 2023Liked by Jordan Schachtel

"I refer you to Joan Peter's seminal work, "From Time Immemorial " which absolutely destroys the fraud of the "Palestinian" narrative. " You beat me to it. ALL the receipts are there.

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Oct 24, 2023Liked by Jordan Schachtel

Arafat was an Egyptian army officer recruited by the KGB to lead the Palestinian pretend people. I refer you to Joan Peter's seminal work, "From Time Immemorial " which absolutely destroys the fraud of the "Palestinian" narrative.

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Did I miss something? No mention here of Rothschild and the Balfour Declaration of Nov.2, 1917. From James Balfour, Secretary of the British Foreign Office, conveying the King's opinion on the matter of Palestine:

"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country".

https://www.rothschildarchive.org/collections/rothschild_faqs/walter_rothschild_and_the_balfour_declaration

Zionism was never uniformly accepted by Jews to this day. MOst Jews have no blood tie to ancient Israel any more than the majority of non-Jew Palestinians. The reviled Palestinian Christians probably have the most claim from their ancestors.

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this is good but leaves out foundational facts.

there's one indigenous arab territory--the arabian peninsula. every other country now defined as "arab" is a colonized and arabized political creation. and every modern royal dynasty in the middle east was manufactured by the british according to their own political expediencies.

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There's a far easier way of understanding "palestinian" as an identity. Compare it to how "aryan" was defined by the national socialists, the allys and friends of the originators of today's "palestinians".

"Palestine is where palestinians live", simply. That also harmonises with islam and how it insists on conflict and violent overthrow of all others, and the subsequent subjugation and eventual genocide of non-islamic cultures.

Mein Kampf or Quoran, the only difference is the name of the Führer/prophet.

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Oct 25, 2023Liked by Jordan Schachtel

Thanks for posting this as I have been doing some research into the notion of "Palestinian" since I had read a while back that Arab-speaking folks in what would become Israel called themselves Palestinian only because they wanted a state by that name. Further, one of my fave Christian preachers, JD Farag, born in Lebanon of Egyptian dad and Arab mother, pretty much said the same things as posted in this article; while I did refer to himself as "Palestinian" at times, he actually calls himself Arab. This post is correct, "Palestinian" is truly a construct, but these folks are going to call themselves Palestinian no matter what. As for the war going on right now, I support neither side, but will always support Christians on both sides. Whether Arab or Palestinian, these folks need to wake up--their leaders are terrible (and Israel's aren't much better, IMHO).

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This is a good article. What is missing, I would say, is how many years Israel has been under attack constantly. That is an important piece to know & understand.

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Interesting article and contains much truth. When one gets down to the brass tacks, however, none of the arguments by the Muslims means anything. Mohammad declared in his hadith that devout Muslims were to kill Jews anywhere they found them. This why most Muslims reject the two state solution, with only one state, from "the river to the sea", and judenrein.

Danny Huckabee

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It wasn't only much maligned "Western Imperialism" which upset the apple cart after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire -- though as the victors in the "Great War", Western Europeans had every right to exert control over their newly conquered lands. Ruminate all you want over the morality of this, but these are the rules of war from time immemorial. To the winner go the spoils. The Soviet Union and the KGB had its designs on Israel as well from the beginning of its modern statehood. But as Israel chose to cozy up with first the British and then then the U.S., the KGB began aiming its deadly effective propaganda cannons at Israel. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, of course, the Ayatollahs stepped up to the plate. And we all know how much they want peace in the region.

As the author stated, the mere presence of Jews living on what was considered Muslim land exclusively has contributed much to the intractable hate we see on display today. External forces both in the Arab world and from the Soviet Union sowed much unrest as well for purely their own perceived advantage. Neither the Arab world, the Soviets, or the Persians have ever held any actual concern for the welfare of Arabs in Palestine. They are the world's pawns.

https://www.jewishpolicycenter.org/2022/04/08/exposing-the-soviet-lie-of-israeli-apartheid/

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https://allisrael.com/15-facts-about-palestine-that-you-won-t-hear-in-the-mainstream-media?utm_source=All%20Israel%20News&utm_campaign=fe546cb255-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2023_10_22_12_54_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-f357280d9a-%5BLIST_EMAIL_ID%5D (https://allisrael.com/15-facts-about-palestine-that-you-won-t-hear-in-the-mainstream-media?utm_source=All%20Israel%20News&utm_campaign=fe546cb255-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2023_10_22_12_54_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-f357280d9a-%5BLIST_EMAIL_ID%5D)

Palestinians

• For a start, there is no "State of Palestine." In fact, until 1964, there was not even a "Palestinian people".

• "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality, today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism." — Zoheir Mohsen, Palestinian leader, interview in Trouw, March 31, 1977.

• "For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan." — Zoheir Mohsen, Trouw, March 31, 1977.

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How about ask an actual Palestinian?

I've been a big fan of your writing, and included you in the Balanced Media Diet (www.BalancedMediaDiet.com) I've put together for years now, but this is pretty weak journalism here. ("How does [group of people] feel about this thing?" "Let's ask someone who isn't a member of that group").

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Rare Jordan L. Feel like your passionate emotions clouding your judgment on this one

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But this makes no difference to the conflict. In 1967 the lands of the West Bank and Gaza were inhabited foreign territory, not available for Israeli sovereignty and settlement by force.

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And the other side says "90+% of Jews living in Israel have zero genetic history to the land of Palestine".

So round and round we go. No counter offers to my previous proposal? So lets spin our wheels and explain how "right our side is" rather that talking solutions.

Seriously. What would it take you to give up the west bank and Gaza and let Palestine exist as a true country?

1) No army. They are allowed police and sufficient arms for that role to be enforced. Israel gets to verify.

2) please fill in here your "paranoia list" (Paranoia is a good thing LOL)

https://i.postimg.cc/vZwdrB12/Paranoia-Keeping-Critter-Alive.png

Failure to meet any of these terms will result in being nuked. Palestine agrees to those terms. At that point everyone in the world has a vested interest in Palestine NOT doing anything stupid including the current sponsors of Hamas (intel agencies). They will keep them in line.

You come clean and admit what you have, open to independent international inspections and discuss limits with neighbours. Decide what you need to feel secure and stop attacking everyone preemptively. No to "You get to decide and not tell anyone". I can't sign treaties with someone who lies to me.

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