"and antisemitic" - LMAO. They have nothing against Semites (those who speak a Semitic language). Now those Zionists they are definitely against. Anti-Zionist would be the accurate term. Interestingly a lot of them fall into the same category as people like Max Blumenthal and Lee Camp (both Jews). Are Max and Lee "antisemitic"?
It's important to use the correct definition of the word. That is how we communicate. If you don't use the correct definition of the word, nobody is clear on what you mean.
We are getting into an age-old debate about word meaning.
What determines what the words mean? The way the words are used in the everyday meaning by ordinary-average people? Or the woke college professors and dictionary writers trying to remake society.
Merriam-Webster changed the definitions of words тАЬmale,тАЭ тАЬfemale,тАЭ тАЬboy,тАЭ and тАЬgirlтАЭ to include gender identity. Is that how we use those words? Did that arise organically? Or was it an initiative by activists to conceal their efforts to change what and how people think?
If you're writing an academic paper, the distinction between anti-Zionist and anti-semite may matter. If you're trying say Hamas and it's sympathizers aren't really Jew-haters, they're the kind of anti-semites who oppose colonization to form a state of Israel, you're promoting a lie.
During my lifetime (68 years), it's only in the last few months people have tried to cleverly parse "anti-semite" to mean "against those who speak a Semitic language." It has always meant those who discriminate against Jews.
Let's get one thing straight. Hamas and it's sympathizers are haters. They hate Jews. They are consumed with hate for a group of people. Don't try to cloak that fact with linguistic sleight-of-hand.
And don't you and TRM dare try to mock and shame me as an ignorant redneck b/c I'm not adopting your woke-speak.
How stupid. Being Jewish is a religious distinction. Zionism was and is a political campaign to turn Jewishness into a nationality. And pursue a nation-state where others have lived for hundreds of years, with the goal of displacing them. I don't really care who wins, it's certainly no biz of the U.S. who does. It's a religious war between Zionist Jews and Muslims. We in the West paid a dear price in blood and war to arrive at a place of religious tolerance in our societies. Apparently those folks do not wish to do so. Oh well, sucks to be them. But it is awfully stupid to start a war with 500 million of your neighbors when you are a tiny nation.
The distinction between anti-Zionist and anti-semite matters no matter what sort of communication is going on. They are 2 entirely different things. Anti-Semite has NEVER meant those who discriminate against Jews. You are the one promoting a lie.
If you think anti-Semite has traditionally meant "discrimination against those who speak a Semitic language," you're delusional. That's never been a thing until recently. Nobody lumped Arabic and Hebrew speakers together, separated them from every other group, and made them objects of hate, inferiority, or any other form of discrimination. You think Nazi's (real Nazi's) weren't anti-semitic? Didn't they seek alliances with the Muslim world, including Arabic speakers?
Likewise, anti-Zionist is a term that only recently came into widespread use. It's used to describe Palestinians, who want to wipe Jews off the face of the earth, and make it sound like they only want social justice.
Yes, technically anti-Zionist and anti-Semitic are different terms. For TRM, with his lame "LMAO," to school me on my us of "anti-semitic" in the context I used it in is being a language grandma.
You and TRM are both woke, arrogant shits. You think you know more than you really do. Where did TRM get the idea anti-semitic means anti-people who speak semitic? That's not even a part of the dictionary definition. And from where did you conclude anti-jew has NEVER been the meaning of anti-semitic? With NEVER in caps.
You both read that from other people who made it up for propaganda purposes. And you fell for it.
And another thing, clown. What is your basis for saying "Anti-Semite has NEVER meant those who discriminate against Jews. " That's EXACTLY what the dictionary definition is:
Because it advocates a European invasion of the middle east in one of the last gasp colonial land grabs? Because it advocates ethnic cleansing? Maybe go chat with Lee Camp or Max Blumenthal about it.
If you are up for a bit of reading I'd recommend "Zionism. The real enemy of the Jews" by Alan Hart (Golda Meir's good friend). One rabbi told him "You have summed up the problem for Jews in 7 words".
Oh shut up with your tired propaganda. We are beyond word games. The days when Zionists and their political puppets in the U.S. can get away with lies and BS and anti-historical word games are past. My guess is you have no grasp on the history of Zionism at all. Are you familiar with the work of the 'New Historians' which was based on Israeli govt docs that were held secret for 50 years? My guess is that you don't, which should embarrass you after running your ignorant yap. If you do, well you are just another biased liar. Happy to decimate anything you have to offer, bring it. You know less than nothing about this subject (meaning you believe things that aren't true).
Nobody is going anywhere so it's long past time for both sides to face that fact. The Arabs are not going to do the ethnic cleansing of Palestine for you and the Israelis have nukes including H-Bombs so "From the river to the sea will be glassy (and radioactive)".
Time for both sides to grow up and quit acting like 2 year olds.
Gosh, why did Gold Meir identify as a Palestinian Jew? In her own words? How come she didn't know 'There is no "Palestine"? Are you better informed on the region and its history? And it's been called Palestine for ages, you idiot.
This sickening word game is particularly repugnant. Much of the world was not organized in Western style nation-states until the past couple of hundred year. In the wake of WWI and then WWII, Arabs were seeking a national identity but the Western powers effed all up. Sykes Picot and on and on, divvying up the Arab world based on idiotic ignorance that was never sustainable.
Palestine is a territory that was controlled by Muslims for more time than Jews, dingus. Stop discussing things you don't understand. The Romans named it Palestine cuz of the Philistines living there almost 2 millennia ago, you ignorant hack. Go away now, stupid isn't selling here.
You think that's an argument? It's a surrender, you fool. I'm very well read on this subject. Keep bringing your weak posing, I'll decimate it. The supremacist bit is easy - how much do you know about Judaism and Zionism? Anything?
You should check out the "bot/troll VS snarky assholes" war in the Zerohedge comments section. It's hilarious. Pretty much any subject will do LOL.
Zerohedge comments were once funny and amusing but are now just snarky and antisemitic.
"and antisemitic" - LMAO. They have nothing against Semites (those who speak a Semitic language). Now those Zionists they are definitely against. Anti-Zionist would be the accurate term. Interestingly a lot of them fall into the same category as people like Max Blumenthal and Lee Camp (both Jews). Are Max and Lee "antisemitic"?
OK. You're showing me how brilliant you are by beating me over the head with the strict definition compared to the every day meaning.
You got me, karen.
It's important to use the correct definition of the word. That is how we communicate. If you don't use the correct definition of the word, nobody is clear on what you mean.
We are getting into an age-old debate about word meaning.
What determines what the words mean? The way the words are used in the everyday meaning by ordinary-average people? Or the woke college professors and dictionary writers trying to remake society.
Merriam-Webster changed the definitions of words тАЬmale,тАЭ тАЬfemale,тАЭ тАЬboy,тАЭ and тАЬgirlтАЭ to include gender identity. Is that how we use those words? Did that arise organically? Or was it an initiative by activists to conceal their efforts to change what and how people think?
If you're writing an academic paper, the distinction between anti-Zionist and anti-semite may matter. If you're trying say Hamas and it's sympathizers aren't really Jew-haters, they're the kind of anti-semites who oppose colonization to form a state of Israel, you're promoting a lie.
During my lifetime (68 years), it's only in the last few months people have tried to cleverly parse "anti-semite" to mean "against those who speak a Semitic language." It has always meant those who discriminate against Jews.
Let's get one thing straight. Hamas and it's sympathizers are haters. They hate Jews. They are consumed with hate for a group of people. Don't try to cloak that fact with linguistic sleight-of-hand.
And don't you and TRM dare try to mock and shame me as an ignorant redneck b/c I'm not adopting your woke-speak.
How stupid. Being Jewish is a religious distinction. Zionism was and is a political campaign to turn Jewishness into a nationality. And pursue a nation-state where others have lived for hundreds of years, with the goal of displacing them. I don't really care who wins, it's certainly no biz of the U.S. who does. It's a religious war between Zionist Jews and Muslims. We in the West paid a dear price in blood and war to arrive at a place of religious tolerance in our societies. Apparently those folks do not wish to do so. Oh well, sucks to be them. But it is awfully stupid to start a war with 500 million of your neighbors when you are a tiny nation.
The distinction between anti-Zionist and anti-semite matters no matter what sort of communication is going on. They are 2 entirely different things. Anti-Semite has NEVER meant those who discriminate against Jews. You are the one promoting a lie.
If you think anti-Semite has traditionally meant "discrimination against those who speak a Semitic language," you're delusional. That's never been a thing until recently. Nobody lumped Arabic and Hebrew speakers together, separated them from every other group, and made them objects of hate, inferiority, or any other form of discrimination. You think Nazi's (real Nazi's) weren't anti-semitic? Didn't they seek alliances with the Muslim world, including Arabic speakers?
Likewise, anti-Zionist is a term that only recently came into widespread use. It's used to describe Palestinians, who want to wipe Jews off the face of the earth, and make it sound like they only want social justice.
Yes, technically anti-Zionist and anti-Semitic are different terms. For TRM, with his lame "LMAO," to school me on my us of "anti-semitic" in the context I used it in is being a language grandma.
To them, wiping Jews off the face of the Earth _IS_ social justice.
You and TRM are both woke, arrogant shits. You think you know more than you really do. Where did TRM get the idea anti-semitic means anti-people who speak semitic? That's not even a part of the dictionary definition. And from where did you conclude anti-jew has NEVER been the meaning of anti-semitic? With NEVER in caps.
You both read that from other people who made it up for propaganda purposes. And you fell for it.
You're both woke, ignorant fucks.
And another thing, clown. What is your basis for saying "Anti-Semite has NEVER meant those who discriminate against Jews. " That's EXACTLY what the dictionary definition is:
anti-Semitism
noun
an┬╖тАЛti-Sem┬╖тАЛi┬╖тАЛtism ╦Мan-t─У-╦Иse-m╔Щ-╦Мti-z╔Щm, ╦Мan-╦Мt─л-
variants or less commonly antisemitism
: hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-Semitism
Where did Pookie go to school? Did he graduate?
Did Pookie make it past 8th grade?
Because it advocates a European invasion of the middle east in one of the last gasp colonial land grabs? Because it advocates ethnic cleansing? Maybe go chat with Lee Camp or Max Blumenthal about it.
If you are up for a bit of reading I'd recommend "Zionism. The real enemy of the Jews" by Alan Hart (Golda Meir's good friend). One rabbi told him "You have summed up the problem for Jews in 7 words".
Oh shut up with your tired propaganda. We are beyond word games. The days when Zionists and their political puppets in the U.S. can get away with lies and BS and anti-historical word games are past. My guess is you have no grasp on the history of Zionism at all. Are you familiar with the work of the 'New Historians' which was based on Israeli govt docs that were held secret for 50 years? My guess is that you don't, which should embarrass you after running your ignorant yap. If you do, well you are just another biased liar. Happy to decimate anything you have to offer, bring it. You know less than nothing about this subject (meaning you believe things that aren't true).
Here's a well documented history for you to read. Enjoy.
https://www.jeremyrhammond.com/2024/01/04/history-of-palestine/
Nobody is going anywhere so it's long past time for both sides to face that fact. The Arabs are not going to do the ethnic cleansing of Palestine for you and the Israelis have nukes including H-Bombs so "From the river to the sea will be glassy (and radioactive)".
Time for both sides to grow up and quit acting like 2 year olds.
Gosh, why did Gold Meir identify as a Palestinian Jew? In her own words? How come she didn't know 'There is no "Palestine"? Are you better informed on the region and its history? And it's been called Palestine for ages, you idiot.
This sickening word game is particularly repugnant. Much of the world was not organized in Western style nation-states until the past couple of hundred year. In the wake of WWI and then WWII, Arabs were seeking a national identity but the Western powers effed all up. Sykes Picot and on and on, divvying up the Arab world based on idiotic ignorance that was never sustainable.
Palestine is a territory that was controlled by Muslims for more time than Jews, dingus. Stop discussing things you don't understand. The Romans named it Palestine cuz of the Philistines living there almost 2 millennia ago, you ignorant hack. Go away now, stupid isn't selling here.
Zero substance, just a pose? I'm quite well read on this subject, are you? Happy to debate you into the dirt.
Uh cuz it's a religious supremacist political ideology utterly anathematic to the classical liberal values of the West.
You think that's an argument? It's a surrender, you fool. I'm very well read on this subject. Keep bringing your weak posing, I'll decimate it. The supremacist bit is easy - how much do you know about Judaism and Zionism? Anything?
Giggling, it's you who looks ridiculous here, not me. Carry on exposing what a hack you are. It's fun to watch.