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Pookie's avatar

It's important to use the correct definition of the word. That is how we communicate. If you don't use the correct definition of the word, nobody is clear on what you mean.

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Evil Incarnate's avatar

We are getting into an age-old debate about word meaning.

What determines what the words mean? The way the words are used in the everyday meaning by ordinary-average people? Or the woke college professors and dictionary writers trying to remake society.

Merriam-Webster changed the definitions of words “male,” “female,” “boy,” and “girl” to include gender identity. Is that how we use those words? Did that arise organically? Or was it an initiative by activists to conceal their efforts to change what and how people think?

If you're writing an academic paper, the distinction between anti-Zionist and anti-semite may matter. If you're trying say Hamas and it's sympathizers aren't really Jew-haters, they're the kind of anti-semites who oppose colonization to form a state of Israel, you're promoting a lie.

During my lifetime (68 years), it's only in the last few months people have tried to cleverly parse "anti-semite" to mean "against those who speak a Semitic language." It has always meant those who discriminate against Jews.

Let's get one thing straight. Hamas and it's sympathizers are haters. They hate Jews. They are consumed with hate for a group of people. Don't try to cloak that fact with linguistic sleight-of-hand.

And don't you and TRM dare try to mock and shame me as an ignorant redneck b/c I'm not adopting your woke-speak.

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War for the West's avatar

How stupid. Being Jewish is a religious distinction. Zionism was and is a political campaign to turn Jewishness into a nationality. And pursue a nation-state where others have lived for hundreds of years, with the goal of displacing them. I don't really care who wins, it's certainly no biz of the U.S. who does. It's a religious war between Zionist Jews and Muslims. We in the West paid a dear price in blood and war to arrive at a place of religious tolerance in our societies. Apparently those folks do not wish to do so. Oh well, sucks to be them. But it is awfully stupid to start a war with 500 million of your neighbors when you are a tiny nation.

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Pookie's avatar

The distinction between anti-Zionist and anti-semite matters no matter what sort of communication is going on. They are 2 entirely different things. Anti-Semite has NEVER meant those who discriminate against Jews. You are the one promoting a lie.

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Evil Incarnate's avatar

If you think anti-Semite has traditionally meant "discrimination against those who speak a Semitic language," you're delusional. That's never been a thing until recently. Nobody lumped Arabic and Hebrew speakers together, separated them from every other group, and made them objects of hate, inferiority, or any other form of discrimination. You think Nazi's (real Nazi's) weren't anti-semitic? Didn't they seek alliances with the Muslim world, including Arabic speakers?

Likewise, anti-Zionist is a term that only recently came into widespread use. It's used to describe Palestinians, who want to wipe Jews off the face of the earth, and make it sound like they only want social justice.

Yes, technically anti-Zionist and anti-Semitic are different terms. For TRM, with his lame "LMAO," to school me on my us of "anti-semitic" in the context I used it in is being a language grandma.

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John R. Grout's avatar

To them, wiping Jews off the face of the Earth _IS_ social justice.

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Evil Incarnate's avatar

You and TRM are both woke, arrogant shits. You think you know more than you really do. Where did TRM get the idea anti-semitic means anti-people who speak semitic? That's not even a part of the dictionary definition. And from where did you conclude anti-jew has NEVER been the meaning of anti-semitic? With NEVER in caps.

You both read that from other people who made it up for propaganda purposes. And you fell for it.

You're both woke, ignorant fucks.

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Evil Incarnate's avatar

And another thing, clown. What is your basis for saying "Anti-Semite has NEVER meant those who discriminate against Jews. " That's EXACTLY what the dictionary definition is:

anti-Semitism

noun

an·​ti-Sem·​i·​tism ˌan-tē-ˈse-mə-ˌti-zəm, ˌan-ˌtī-

variants or less commonly antisemitism

: hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-Semitism

Where did Pookie go to school? Did he graduate?

Did Pookie make it past 8th grade?

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