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wilson's avatar

There is nothing for me to concede. If you read what I wrote I never said bush lied about or fabricated anything about his military service. Joining the Air national guard is good evidence that he did so to not only avoid being drafted but also to avoid going to Vietnam. Since bush had political ambitions, this was a good way to be in the military to get that ticket and not take wartime risks. As far as I know not one single guard unit deployed to Vietnam during the entire conflict.

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Alex's avatar

He admitted he joined the guard as a pilot to avoid being drafted as a grunt. This was common. My step dad joined the reserves to avoid the draft. I don't fault him knowing Vietnam was a meat grinder. Look, I agree with you - it's very plausible and valid rationale to believe he did become a NG pilot to avoid Vietnam service. I wouldn't deny its plausible. But both you and I don't really know that for a fact. It's still an assumption. Its my understanding Bush volunteered for Vietnam but lacked the flight hours. This is all moot anyway. I already said I'm not defending him because I don't really care for him. We're not going to deflect away from Tim Walz. Tim Walz could have valid reasons why he chose not to deploy that we dont know but the fact is he intentionally lied and fabricating aspects of his military service.

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Anthony's avatar

Clinton, Trump, Biden, Blumenthal all ducked the draft. Walz ducked out of deployment leaving his men (he took a demotion to msg to keep from going) in the lurch.

Yet he used the fact he served a hot minute as SGM to help him in politics. It’s disgusting he hasn’t been honest he is a MSG (E8) he is not a SGM (E9). He should be asked to see his retired id card each and every time! He lied.

Fact is he was anti bush, anti war, and there was no way he was going to Iraq or Afghanistan or anywhere else. He bragged about getting more from the military than he gave!

He truly is disgusting.

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Brad Kitson's avatar

Such faux outrage.

You must hate all Trump's lies. That traitor lied about election fraud so that he could overthrow a legally certified Presidential election.

Hey, who was the incompetent moron in charge of the country that let all the election fraud happen?

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Anthony's avatar

There was no lie, democrats illegality used the money zuckerburg sent for electing integrity, for get out to vote. Sorry 2020 was rigged you guys will never care how much was spent to get people to vote.

In the end democrats are the traitors and all evils in American history has happened under the party of Jackson!

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Brad Kitson's avatar

What a shame you weren't at the Capitol on J6. You could be a felon now

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Anthony's avatar

Ignorant comment imagine the hate in your heart to have that evil. It’s weird too democrats can burn cities down, and try to overthrow Trump on Jan 20, 2017 but that’s ok. Just weird.

Walz is a bad guy! Just a phony. :) you have to live with that. If he can’t even be honest about his military service he will never be honest about anything.

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Brad Kitson's avatar

Trump incited the insurrection at the Capitol. He loved it. He stood by while police were attacked.

No Democratic leader had anything to do with any riot. Trump was the only politician that incited violence in our cities. He sent thugs, like the Proud Boys, to confront protestors. Two people died in Portland because of Trump. Trump had peaceful protestors and press attacked so he could take a photo holding the Bible upside down in front of a church.

You ignore why protests happened and make it worse. Trump and MAGA sided with the murderer, not the black community and not George Floyd. Trump effectively told the black community to STFU and take it. He wasn't welcome at the funeral.

Not really surprising. Your brand is hate and division. No, there weren't any good people carrying Tiki Torches. Trump couldn't condemn right wing vigilantes, like the Proud Boys. They're the fucking traitors that are now convicted of Seditious Conspiracy against America.

Following a traitor and siding with traitors, kinda makes you a traitor.

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Anthony's avatar

1st comment is a lie, there was no insurrection. You are being gas lighted by the Democratic Party and their media apparatus.

2. This is a lie, the Democratic Party egged it on and has used agrresive rhetoric to flame the division. Democrats spent years lying and pushing hate against Trump. So what do you expect. The Democratic Party is a collective party they do what their leaders want.

3. George Floyd was a criminal doing criminal things. Democrats hate laws they disagree with, which changes on the daily. George Floyd did not deserve to die, but he contributed to his death. He is the one who had massive drugs in his system and was committing a felony and refused to be arrested. Democrats never can take responsibility for their actions always someone else’s fault. I don’t have empathy for the officer either two wrongs don’t make a right though.

4th is propaganda that has been proven false over and over and over again. Trump did condemn the white suppremacidt and neo nazis you are lying at this point.

Trump did condemn white supremacists, too bad so many people won't listen

Issue is you allow democrats to lie. Even after fact checking you still push the lies

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/10/02/trump-and-white-supremacy-he-did-condemn-and-has-repeatedly-column/5883336002/

Once again calling people a traitor because he goes against your nonsense doesn’t mean it’s so. Trump is on the side of republicanism, your on the side of Jacksonian democracy they will always be at odds with each other. Democrats have wanted this form of democracy since the age of Jackson (the president who formed the Democratic Party) when it runs directly against republicanism and the constitution. If anything anyone following Jackson is the true traitor.

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wilson's avatar

kind of a funny insurrection where the insurrectionists were unarmed and the only casualties were two protestors, one beaten to death by police and the other shot to death. Both were unarmed.

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Brad Kitson's avatar

Multiple convictions for Seditious Conspiracy against America damn well says it was an insurrection. Trump incited it. He stood by and watched. He praises the attackers, not the police. There is no excuse for any of that.

The democratic process and peaceful transfer of power have been a core American value for over 200 years. The election was legally certified. It was over. It was time to congratulate the winner and move on.

The loser can run again in 4 years. Laws can be made to prevent fraud in the future. That's how it works in America.

Instead, you fucking traitors tried to overthrow the election because you hate America. You couldn't care less about the rule of law or American values.

🖕Traitor.

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Anthony's avatar

1st show me the interactions directly between trump and these people? Show me the conviction in court that Trump had anything to do with anyone at the Capitol?

The police attacked the people at the Capitol. They were just at fault for inciting the violence as anyone.

Issue is you listen to propaganda from the left who had lied every step of the way about Jan 6.

2 then why did on Jan 6 2017 democrats try to overthrow the election if it was over? They did everything in their power to stop the counting of electoral votes. Democrats came close to overturning the 2016 election. You are started this, with the lies in 2000.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/no-trump-electoral-college-challenge-233294

Then you all tried again Jan 20, 2017.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/01/19/politics/trump-inauguration-protests-womens-march

Yet democrats let every single one of these people go. Two sides of justice one for democrats one for republicans.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna889531

Once again democrats tried to overturn 2016 election on Jan 6 and you all cheered that! Always two sets of standards.

You all don’t care about law or fairness unless democrats win every single election. You love Tyranny of majority, and one party rule!

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Brad Kitson's avatar

No, traitor.

He was making a political argument about gun control. It had nothing to do with his career.

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Brad Kitson's avatar

Patriots do what they can to help country and others. We did that in the Pandemic by being safe and getting vaccinated.

Not MAGA. They chose to be a bunch of Typhoid Marys spreading a deadly disease as much as possible. It was a massive FU to frontline healthcare workers, filled massively expensive hospital beds, fucked the economy by extending the Pandemic and let hundreds of thousands needlessly die.

You just don't give a shit about your country and others. All you care about is following a fucking traitor.

In your world, Trump is an incompetent moron that couldn't prevent election fraud. LOL, how truly pathetic!

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Anthony's avatar

You sure are mad, it’s weird you don’t really care what your leaders do in life. As long as they side with the he majority whatever that is it’s all you want. Who cares about the constitution and fairness it’s always about the majority and tyranny of that majority.

Issue is you don’t care about anyone other than your side. That’s why you pass the laws and do what you can to keep your hand on the scales.

Just look at the nationalizing of students. You don’t care about all Americans just your Americans. That’s why you will do whatever you can to tilt the scale only to this group. Who cares about anyone who doesn’t have a degree they should suffer so your voters get ahead.

Its ridiculous.

More peoeple died from covid-19 under Biden even with his tyrannical mandates. You weren’t stopping covid-19 it was too late. You all played politics instead of letting Trump close the borders and isolate. Democrats caused far more damage than Trump. Especially with thr economy. CA. Did far worse than Texas and Florida yet you don’t care. As long as you could win the presidency. Your party did whatever they could for 4 years to overthrow the president of the USA.

It wasn’t incompetence but can only do so much against a collectivize as the saying goes resistance is futile, you will be assimilated.

Jsut look at the extreme nonsense on unions. You do realize unions only care about the majority opinions, if you go against the majority you get destroyed. Which you all love is destroying the minority. Its been this way since the Democratic Party was formed

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Brad Kitson's avatar

Trump is a criminal and rapist. Please don't tell me you give a shit what any politician does in real life.

Yes, Biden inherited the largest spike in infections. They died after he took office. He rolled out the vaccines to 330M people and more around the world.

It was MAGA that refused to be safe and get vaccinated. Biden had no control over MAGA. Trump helped get the vaccines, but stood by when his followers refused to take them. Sure, blame Biden for what you unpatriotic idiots did.

You have no sense of right and wrong. No common sense. You can't argue your way out of a paper bag. You've given up everything that matters to be a blind MAGA follower.

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