Friends of mine own safes. They’ll get copied on this Substack. About the only thing a Liberty safe is good for is protecting your Bud Lite... they’ll be collectors items some day. Low value, but collectible.
John Wick, in the movies, kept his valuables and guns and ammo under the concrete. He'd use a sledgehammer to open his "safe". I suppose a jackhammer would do the job, too.
That's an analog solution.
A safe is kind of out of date in the world we live in today. All a safe does is show the state or a thief, where to go.
Oh.. and you should own more than one. You can either hide both and split what you have or leave one in the open with just enough in it to make it plausible for why you own it.
Goldhoarder: One of the stores here in town is in the old bank building. The old bank vault is still there. The store uses it as a dressing room. Perhaps just buy an old bank building with a vault and use that.
Liberty Safe OWNERS SHOULD TRADE THEM WITH EACH OTHER!!!!....and NOT tell the company. Then the "break-in" codes they have on file and give to FBI, etc., will not MATCH.
It is very difficult to find any public fund or company that is not ESG. I recently restructured my 401k, and the best I could do was to select non-ESG funds at otherwise ESG management firms. It’s not really a great investment anymore since ESG typically underperforms and events outside your control like the covid fiasco can absolutely tank returns. More and more I’m trying to tie my investments to tangible assets like land.
Interesting piece, Jordan, but I have some issues with it...
1) You have Hughes' mugshot and arrest photos combined with the Liberty logo. From your opening, it first sounds like the guy in the photo is from Liberty and that he's the villain of the story.
2) You write that the date for the Capitol protest was 2001.
3) I had no idea what a Potemkin village was.
4) It's not clear what the previous owners of Liberty did wrong.
5) How does the warrant not force them to give the code? If they were looking for something that could fit in the safe, then the safe is fair grounds for a search. And no, they wouldn't blow it open like someone has suggested here. They would have a locksmith open it. If you're arguing that they didn't fight back or resist the request, then I agree, they're bending over too willingly.
6) Why are they just now arresting him? The others have been in jail for a couple years now.
Other than that, it's a very interesting piece and certainly a reminder that just because a company appears to be freedom-minded doesn't mean it is.
Unless the warrant they showed Liberty Safe had Liberty Safe's name on it, it didn't apply to the company. From the article it sounds like the warrant was for the victim's house and would have had his name on it.
If you're saying they can't search the safe because Liberty is not on the warrant, you're incorrect. Just like they don't need Master Lock on the warrant to cut open a padlock.
Because a warrant typically allows the government to do something, but not you. E.g. police can search your house, but you don't have to tell them the murder weapon is actually in a desk drawer at work.
Unless this is a different warrant or not a warrant but something else, I suspect the feds wanted to search ("trash") the place and likely then take a bunch of servers/computers/etc, and Liberty Safe just gave up the codes to avoid the mess.
Hmmm, should the warrant mention the safe specifically? Not the company having a protocol to give access to it if there is access to the property where it's located. This is just very wrong.
It depends on the warrant and how it's written. Sometimes, only specific property is seizable while other times, everything on the grounds of an address is fair game.
If the warrant was for a stolen truck or boat, then yeah, a safe would be outside its scope. But many warrants include everything at a certain location, locked items/areas included.
"Everything at this location" is not what the company says, but that their protocol is to provide access codes if there is a warrant to access the property, regardless if it's "fair game" or not. Even if this particular warrant allowed to open the safe, another one might have it outside of the scope for such a blanket policy. Nobody should use their services, not safe.
Liberty Safe to Bud Light: hold my beer.
So these smart skeptical prepared types thought a software-controlled safe was safe?
They have raised the young on this garbage.
Friends of mine own safes. They’ll get copied on this Substack. About the only thing a Liberty safe is good for is protecting your Bud Lite... they’ll be collectors items some day. Low value, but collectible.
Hah
Lmao. 👍😂😂
John Wick, in the movies, kept his valuables and guns and ammo under the concrete. He'd use a sledgehammer to open his "safe". I suppose a jackhammer would do the job, too.
That's an analog solution.
A safe is kind of out of date in the world we live in today. All a safe does is show the state or a thief, where to go.
Loved the Wick movies
All safes should be hidden. Even large heavy ones. Many good tips online for how to hide a safe.
Oh.. and you should own more than one. You can either hide both and split what you have or leave one in the open with just enough in it to make it plausible for why you own it.
Goldhoarder: One of the stores here in town is in the old bank building. The old bank vault is still there. The store uses it as a dressing room. Perhaps just buy an old bank building with a vault and use that.
Liberty Safe OWNERS SHOULD TRADE THEM WITH EACH OTHER!!!!....and NOT tell the company. Then the "break-in" codes they have on file and give to FBI, etc., will not MATCH.
Problem Solved.
:)
its probably tied to the serial number of the safe, not the owners name.
Great work Jordan
Appreciate it
Does anyone have a list of stocks that one could invest in that take the exact opposite approach to ESG and DEI AGENDA?
Well.... I'm a Bitcoin guy haha. It's tough when the whole system is beholden to the ruling class.
It is very difficult to find any public fund or company that is not ESG. I recently restructured my 401k, and the best I could do was to select non-ESG funds at otherwise ESG management firms. It’s not really a great investment anymore since ESG typically underperforms and events outside your control like the covid fiasco can absolutely tank returns. More and more I’m trying to tie my investments to tangible assets like land.
Yep. The whole system was enveloped by ESG.
So basically they all play the game so they don’t get cancelled.
That was my observation, yes. There’s some mix of true believers and those simply afraid of the woke mob, but I can’t tell them apart.
“YALL”
Tesla
You must love risk.
Why do you assume I like Tesla, or risk?
Who said anything about risk?
"Liberty Safe"? What an odd name for a company; especially ones that sell safes. Wouldn't "Security Safe" be a better name?
NEVER buy a safe that has anything digital about it. Keep it analog.
It's getting to the point that a person has to put a Faraday Cage (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage) around his house.
These companies need to be getting a wee bit more than egg on their faces. 🍳
Interesting piece, Jordan, but I have some issues with it...
1) You have Hughes' mugshot and arrest photos combined with the Liberty logo. From your opening, it first sounds like the guy in the photo is from Liberty and that he's the villain of the story.
2) You write that the date for the Capitol protest was 2001.
3) I had no idea what a Potemkin village was.
4) It's not clear what the previous owners of Liberty did wrong.
5) How does the warrant not force them to give the code? If they were looking for something that could fit in the safe, then the safe is fair grounds for a search. And no, they wouldn't blow it open like someone has suggested here. They would have a locksmith open it. If you're arguing that they didn't fight back or resist the request, then I agree, they're bending over too willingly.
6) Why are they just now arresting him? The others have been in jail for a couple years now.
Other than that, it's a very interesting piece and certainly a reminder that just because a company appears to be freedom-minded doesn't mean it is.
Unless the warrant they showed Liberty Safe had Liberty Safe's name on it, it didn't apply to the company. From the article it sounds like the warrant was for the victim's house and would have had his name on it.
If you're saying they can't search the safe because Liberty is not on the warrant, you're incorrect. Just like they don't need Master Lock on the warrant to cut open a padlock.
#NeverMonomoy
The “Bud Light” Liberty Safes
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I got Amsec’s.
Can you explain why the presence of a warrant isn't relevant? (Assuming there was one, and it does sound like they had one.)
Because a warrant typically allows the government to do something, but not you. E.g. police can search your house, but you don't have to tell them the murder weapon is actually in a desk drawer at work.
Unless this is a different warrant or not a warrant but something else, I suspect the feds wanted to search ("trash") the place and likely then take a bunch of servers/computers/etc, and Liberty Safe just gave up the codes to avoid the mess.
Turns out I was right: https://twitter.com/libertysafeinc/status/1699606598669459680
They were never even served a court order! They just handed the code over after the feds asked nicely through an official paper ("warrant").
I didn't realize until last night that Liberty was NOT ON THE WARRANT
ESG is just another scam for government to gain control over corporations.
Hmmm, should the warrant mention the safe specifically? Not the company having a protocol to give access to it if there is access to the property where it's located. This is just very wrong.
It depends on the warrant and how it's written. Sometimes, only specific property is seizable while other times, everything on the grounds of an address is fair game.
If the warrant was for a stolen truck or boat, then yeah, a safe would be outside its scope. But many warrants include everything at a certain location, locked items/areas included.
"Everything at this location" is not what the company says, but that their protocol is to provide access codes if there is a warrant to access the property, regardless if it's "fair game" or not. Even if this particular warrant allowed to open the safe, another one might have it outside of the scope for such a blanket policy. Nobody should use their services, not safe.