Not a lot of "sparks flying" unlike its billing. I retain my right to have suspicions about Tucker, on Musk's platform, and what made it through editing. But it was pretty dull for those who've seen his unedited rallies.
But there was nothing on the stage in Wisconsin to move any voters from Trump's column. And probably many voters who want "Trumpism without Trump" or Trump policies without Trump baggage are scratching their heads and concluding it may not be possible from that crew and they'll have to hold their noses again and vote for Trump.
Trump didn't lose any voters. The Fox stage didn't gain any voters. And quite possibly lost voters, now weighing choosing None of the Above vs reluctantly voting for Trump.
I’m not voting ever again until the true United States of America comes back (pre-1913, etc.). It’s a waste of time. We’ve all been had. What a joke...on the world. The USA is evil.
Renee Marie: It is my humble opinion that our Constitutional Republic permanently fell during the 2016 presidential election on July 5 when FBI Director James Comey “exonerated” Hillary Clinton for the illegal server and the thousands of her classified emails. At that point in American history the “rule of law” began its demise and because the constitutional provisions for remedy to the ensuing felonious acts and omissions (FISA Court) of James Comey, et.al were never pursued; our Constitutional Republic has fallen and is irreparable and the four unconstitutional indictments of Donald Trump is my proof.
Please be cognizant, the Comey/Hillary Clinton "exoneration" was three weeks prior to the July 2016 Oval Office meeting orchestrated by President Barack Hussein Obama and attended by Vice President Joe Biden, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, national security adviser Susan Rice and CIA Director John Brennan.
According to CIA Director John Brennan’s handwritten notes, Brennan informed attendees of alleged approval by Hillary Clinton on July 26, 2016, of “a proposal from one of her foreign policy advisors to vilify candidate Donald Trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by Russian security services.” In other words, a scandal about collusion with Russia. According to an official CIA memo, the intent of this Clinton campaign plan was “distracting the public from her use of a private email server.”
Later it was shown that the plan was enacted via the Steele dossier, which Robby Mook, Clinton’s former campaign director, acknowledged under oath in 2022 to have procured. So explosive were Brennan’s notes that Republican U.S. senators needed a federal court order, issued four years after Obama’s Oval Office meeting, to wrest a copy of it from the Department of Justice. Released along with Brennan’s notes was a copy of a CIA memo sent to FBI Director James Comey and Peter Strzok, the deputy assistant director of the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division, delineating Barack Hussein Obama’s Oval Office meeting’s discussion.
If you know anything of the Communist takeover of Russia by Stalin and Lenin you can easily see the four indictments of Donald Trump are "Stalin's show trials" circa 2023, with Obama orchestrating via-fax from his basement in Washington, DC.
Therefore because our Constitutional Republic is fallen; as We the People encounter the 2024 election cycle, it is wise to conduct yourselves as living in a “Post-Constitutional Republic”. I compare it to the time of Jesus Christ living in Roman occupied Jerusalem/Judea/Samaria.
Yes you are correct Renee Marie, "the Republic fell WAY before that bullshit" of Barack Hussein Obama in 2016 weaponizing the levers of the US government against a political opponent named Donald J. Trump.
As you know Renee, in the preamble of the July 4th, 1776 Declaration of Independence, a government obtains its legitimacy ("just powers") from the "consent of the governed". Therefore, given the fallen state of our Constitutional Republic, I am deeply perplexed on voting for anyone other than Trump in 2024. If I vote for anyone else, I then would be giving my consent to be governed and therefore by my vote I would give an unconstitutional US government a legitimacy it does not deserve.
FYI: The reason I would vote for Donald J. Trump in 2024 is because I believe the number one threat facing the world is that the war in Ukraine escalates into a nuclear exchange between Russia and the US during Joe Biden's watch. If however the world is spared from nuclear war between the US and Russia before the 2024 election, then it is my opinion the only man on the planet with the grit to stop Putin and end the war in Ukraine is Donald J. Trump. If however Donald Trump is in prison and Joe Biden or any other Democrat is President, then the end of civilization and the human species is inevitable because of nuclear winter from the nuclear fallout.
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Trump interview was a bit of a rambling mess, IMO. The most telling parts of that interview were questions where Trump was most deflecting: 1) Epstein 2) What to do about CIA/FBI if elected 3) Potential for Civil War
That Civil War started defacto on Jan6-2021 when DJT and all his fellow RINO Politicians, State & Local included, actively participated in certifying a Fraud Election, most notably caused by "Swing States" Michigulag&Pennsyvania Sell-Outs that actually have enough Electoral Votes to have made a difference... yet the Criminals in Georgia get to prosecute him and put him in jail potentially (all for Civil War fodder, of course).
Rallying the Patriots to come to DC and then head home to the WH to watch the orchestrated chaos from the comfort and protection of the Secret Service Handlers told me all I needed to know about Donald the Actor. AFter 4 years of his overrated reign, culminating in Operation WArp Speed Lockdowns during his last year, Election Fraud was inevitable. All part of the Bigger School Play.
My choice for 2024: NONE OF THE ABOVE
Our Republic is cooked, so stop pretending by voting in Sham Elections.
I *especially* didn't like his answer about Epstein. "He probably did kill himself, coming from where he came from looking at what he was facing."
What better excuse could he give any potential captors of him than what came out of his mouth? Not a smart answer for a very stable genius who could possibly be looking at what he's facing coming from where he's coming from.
I like the guy, despite his many self-inflicted wounds and the wounds on the nation his flu response was. And because he isn't a puppet of global malevolent criminals. Unlike everyone else on that stage in Wisconsin, including Vivek. I like him for the same reason Lincoln liked US Grant: He fights, he's indispensable to the cause. A great general, indispensable, though not a great president for the many poor judgments he's made. Such as his speculation about Epstein being dumb to say. Very dumb to say facing what he's facing.
I think Trump won today with that Churchillian mugshot. What a photo, it will go down in history. Now I want to get that printed on T-shirt with no captions, and walk around my Blue State community and see who comments. The Left has so overplayed their hand. This action today is going to expose deep state for more white, suburban housewives. Our country and government is corrupt and broken.
Interesting that the trans/lgbt ideology that is threatening to tear our educational institutions a part was totally ignored. As a parent I found this offensive. Blue states are actively trying to subvert parental rights over these issues via schools. Bret Bair is a joke.
They presented anthropogenic climate change as a thing, and only VR had the nads to call bullshit on it That said more about the politics of the other candidates than anything else .
This is Vivek's exact strategy: boldly say all the things the average conservative wants to hear but none of the other candidates will say. He's a fake.
Given that a "sincere politician" is a contradiction in terms, that is always a possibility.
Is he more or less fake than the other candidates up on that stage?
Tactically, he came into the debate with a good plan and executed that plan rather well. If he is the Soros wolf in sheep's clothing you say he is, then he's a potent threat. If he's Donald Trump, the next generation, he's still a potent threat, just from a different direction.
If there was any lingering doubt that they weren’t completely captured, that has now been answered by their presentation of climate change as fact without any real facts to back it up.
He said the “climate change agenda” is a hoax—which seems obvious. Even my friend who’s a huge climate alarmist agrees
most of the measures (the agenda) in the works are silly. Perhaps I missed VR saying whether or not he believes anthropogenic climate change is happening.
Some feel it’s happening, but it’s not an emergency and is a tradeoff. We get civilization in exchange for a small rise in temperature. He said fossil fuels are necessary for society.
There are those who use that rationale. Although I tend to suspect that vis-a-vis calling climate change a hoax that rationale is a distinction without much difference.
No matter how it got said, VR came out swinging against the current regime's "green energy" agenda.
Really? You are being robbed blind and being setup to be incinerated via thermonuclear attack by the US elites and their bought and paid for lackeys in DC and you are worried about the LGBT garbage, which is more or less a distraction to keep social conservatives from focusing on the elephant in the room, which is massive grift and warmongering via DC.
Vivek says everything you want to hear and more in a perfectly polished package. He's the High School guy running for student council promising everything from a soda machine in the lunch room to no school on Fridays. He is a WEF puppet, I'm just not sure what the actual goal is?
Really? You think people want to hear about how fatherlessness and demise of nuclear family are at the root of all our societal ills? That’s what Vivek said on stage last night. None of the others had balls to touch on that truth. Was VR the only one on stage or in Tucker’s studio last night that actually talked about the future? I think he might also have been the only one w/ closing monologue that didn’t mention ‘Biden’. But if you see him as bought and paid for by Soros then not a thing he says will mean anything to you except that he’s a smooth talking fake. Yeah, VR had some really questionable actions on Covid data collection, Big Pharma. I’d like to see him questioned on that.
Capt Deplorable says we debunked the Soros connection - money came from his estranged brother. And, according to https://www.foxnews.com/politics/vivek-ramaswamy-settles-lawsuit-world-economic-forum-donate-money, "Ramaswamy slapped the organization with a lawsuit in a Cincinnati, Ohio court in April after it failed to remove his name from its 2021 list of Young Global Leaders even though he declined the nomination to the list and requested multiple times for them to remove his name. In a letter Ramaswamy shared with Fox News Digital, the WEF apologized for its mistake of including him on the list without his permission, and noted internal changes it made to its process to ensure no such failure would happen in the future."
Vivek's "happy warrior" act may not have been "Presidential", but within the framework of the debate he showed he could go head to head against a cadre of the political establishment and more than hold his own.
He needed to raise his name recognition, and he succeeded. Like Trump in that first debate in 2016, he needed to show he belonged on that stage and he did exactly that.
Vivek is a polished WEF Soros plant. Just look into the enormous list of accomplishments in his 38 years and close ties to big pharma, etc. Something is amiss.
Capt Deplorable says we debunked the Soros connection - money came from his estranged brother. And, according to https://www.foxnews.com/politics/vivek-ramaswamy-settles-lawsuit-world-economic-forum-donate-money, "Ramaswamy slapped the organization with a lawsuit in a Cincinnati, Ohio court in April after it failed to remove his name from its 2021 list of Young Global Leaders even though he declined the nomination to the list and requested multiple times for them to remove his name. In a letter Ramaswamy shared with Fox News Digital, the WEF apologized for its mistake of including him on the list without his permission, and noted internal changes it made to its process to ensure no such failure would happen in the future."
If he is, then he's the most astute and realistic one of the bunch. Nothing happened last night to shake off Trump's dominance in the polls. Whether Trump gets the GOP nod or not is far more likely to be determined by Jack Smith than the debates.
Regardless of his presumed allegiancea he still has to establish himself as a plausible President to achieve his objectives, whatever they are. He made progress on that front.
Capt Deplorable says we debunked the Soros connection - money came from his estranged brother. And, according to https://www.foxnews.com/politics/vivek-ramaswamy-settles-lawsuit-world-economic-forum-donate-money, "Ramaswamy slapped the organization with a lawsuit in a Cincinnati, Ohio court in April after it failed to remove his name from its 2021 list of Young Global Leaders even though he declined the nomination to the list and requested multiple times for them to remove his name. In a letter Ramaswamy shared with Fox News Digital, the WEF apologized for its mistake of including him on the list without his permission, and noted internal changes it made to its process to ensure no such failure would happen in the future."
Christie is windbag. Someone needs to confront him for the cameras after one of his bully attacks and tell him to take his mafia boss tough guy routine and shove it up his big fat ass.
I've seen clips of him doing his same bully act at ordinary voters with policy differences at GOP meetings he's attending, not even featured. Gotta punch a bully in the face, they're not used to it. Watch him drop or lose his shit. If he threatens to fight, meet it with a cold stare and say "come at me, tough guy, give me what you got fatso." He loses. Unpresidential. He doesn't have the character or disposition to respond in any way that could be considered presidential.
You have to understand something about Christie Cremes - the man is a bona fide sociopath who truly and honestly believes his own lies! He is completely and totally delusional! Lives in a world entirely devoid of all truth! He will tell you that he had nothing to do with Bridge Gate because in his sick and mentally deranged mind - he didn't! It's only a matter of time given his morbid obesity (and asthma) he pops his clogs! NJ Is totally white trash and he personifies it!
Yep. Bullies are weak. They bully to compensate for their weakness. A (rhetorical) punch in the face exposes their weakness. Will either whimper or explode. Both disqualifying.
C'mon, get real. National hero DeSantis led the way in opposing the Covid Atrocities.
Now that doesn't necessarily mean he's the right candidate for this election. But it's obscene to put a minor Enemy of the Human Race like Kemp in the same category as a national hero.
Too bad the RNC kept Larry Elder out of the debate. I suspect they were afraid he'd show some facts and good option against the RNC placed "favorites". Glad I missed the debate. Watched Trump and Tucker, along with 78.4 million others (at the time of my viewing)
I never thought for one second Tucker would bring it up. He's as bad as the rest. And as for the ones on Fox, the moderators not asking about it is no excuse IMO. There is nothing more important issue IMO than stopping the injections. We lost 3000 on 911 and started two bullshit wars over that. The numbers from the injection dwarf that many times over and its fucking crickets. Silence at this point is inexcusable and leads me to believe they are all happy with it and are also happy to be commander in chief while the DoD is running a psychological and biological war against us all.
Have you two seen this report on McKinsey? Very enlightening how governments and the top companies all use them and pay them big money for “consulting” fees on how to destroy anything. The coordinated covid response could have been orchestrated through McKinsey.
I've never heard of this particular company (or the name doesn't ring a bell at least), but i am aware there have been firms like this over the years that would do similar. I shall check it then.
I don’t agree that Tucker is as bad as the rest. He is more free than many others. That said, he played to base by not questioning Trump on vax. Missed opportunity. It could have given a Trump an open ended chance to give updated reply based on re-calibrate/reflection on mRNA efficacy
He followed orders. He's not better than the rest. He is portrayed to be. But he isn't and the fact he didn't ask Trump a single thing about covid proves it. I don't care what his reasons are. They are malicious, and there is zero excuse for silence on the issue. If he was better than the rest, he would have asked real questions, just like his pathetic 12 hr slurp fest on Blaze. 12 hrs, no covid questions. He is carefully crafted limited hangout being used to draw people into Elon's Blue Check ID Verification trap.
That's besides the point. People demanded war over 3000. Nobody is demanding anything over this. And save your lectures about false flags and the presstitutes. Old news.
Miss? No. He gets his orders from above just like the rest of them. I would have never expected it to come from Tucker or the Fox debate. They are all working against us.
Agree FOX bombed the debate. There wasn’t anything there that is important to GOP voters other than Haley talking about spending. Fox leaned into irrelevant questions re: UFO’s & climate change. Not enough attention on immigration and the border. Complete disappointment.
I lost respect for Tucker. As I suspected, Tucker didn't have the balls to ask Trump about his "beautiful shot". He had no problem beating up on the emasculated Asa Hutchinson, but wimped out calling out Trump on his Big Pharma pimping.
Today, President Donald J. Trump awarded Presidential Commendations to the below individuals in recognition of their exceptional efforts on Operation Warp Speed:
I think the concern is nobody knows because no interviewer has asked Trump. The eye rolling is Tucker had chance to do that last night and didn't. Or if he did, it fell to the edit cutting floor
I saw a tweet from him in something like 2014 and he was calling out the vaccines and the harms coming from them. Then, promoting OWS in 2020 - some have said someone got to him. The vax is one thing that really hurts Trump and so I'm not sure what's going on there. Does he realize the amount of harm that's come from it, or not? Or does his ego (or something else) prevent him from taking ownership of the fact that big pharma and/or the globalists screwed him? He didn't personally create those poisons, but he's essentially promoting them, and I don't get the disconnect that is so different from his other America-first policies.
After last night, I'm hoping people take a serious look at RFK Jr or Cornell West so we can break through the duopoly and shake out the corporate cobwebs. Wouldn't it be worth the risk to vote in a candidate that the duopoly hates? Why are we all so attached to our party labels? They are as authentic as those Gucci handbags from China.
Vivek can speak well. He does well with the crowd who doesn’t pay attention to the fact he’s changed positions on everything a lot. He’s a businessman who says what we want to hear but has no record so he can’t be pinned down. A movie that last ran in 2015.
A movie that ran and that prior outsider who also changed positions a lot — did us all the extremely valuable service of exposing the Uniparty, the managerial class and dangers of 3-Letter agencies to our country. Why would we not want to take a chance on now trying to dismantle what has been so plainly exposed?
Who is going to do that? Vivek or Trump? What evidence have you seen either can. Vivek hasn’t been anything and Trump got rolled by everyone. DeSantis is the only one who has a record of doing that. He deDemocrated Florida but apparently he doesn’t put on a good enough show for a lot of people.
Trump was the outsider in 2015 that exposed what I stated. By Trump being unexpectedly elected all became exposed as they tried to take him down. It already happened. My point is what are the next steps to now dismantle/disarm that exposed, deep state. Trump isn’t the long term answer, and he’s only 3 years younger than this guy:
I don’t know who’s going to do it. Tucker touched on maybe if Trump keeps it up, they will JFK him. Nobody on the debate stage last night, except VR, gave me any glimpse of having ability to challenge deep state. Maybe the answer is Youngkin, and how well he does in fight w/ Virginia teachers Union, although that guy made his name in one of the worlds largest Private Equity mega funds (Carlyle Group)
The immediate first step is to not elect Trump. From the current crop of candidates DeSantis is the only one who has experience in fighting the system. That being said we have to assist by not sending these pathetic swamp creatures that are only working for their own longevity. This is not a short term fight but we have to be worried as much about building a future as settling scores from the past.
I wouldn’t necessarily say beta but I think he exhibited more fire last night than anytime I’ve seen prior. I tend to think of him more as a “nerd assassin “. He isn’t particularly animated. Unlike Trump he doesn’t tweet about what he’s thinking, he just quietly does the thing.
I don't need or want him to be Trumpy, but he needs to command and exhibit gravitas. He's been low energy and too buttoned up. Turns me off with his strange choice of words as well.
Good assessment. DeSantis fumbled on the Ukraine question and Vivek was strong on that one. I'd still choose the former. Don't trust Vivek's flip-flopping. He seems pretty finger-to-the-wind to me.
Vivek was only truth teller. The rest are has-been’s or war lovers. DeSantis continues to uninspire. The time-out bell sounded like Wheel of Fortune but these candidates didn’t have answer to the most important puzzle question because FOX moderators never directly asked about it:
Capt Deplorable says we debunked the Soros connection - money came from his estranged brother. And, according to https://www.foxnews.com/politics/vivek-ramaswamy-settles-lawsuit-world-economic-forum-donate-money, "Ramaswamy slapped the organization with a lawsuit in a Cincinnati, Ohio court in April after it failed to remove his name from its 2021 list of Young Global Leaders even though he declined the nomination to the list and requested multiple times for them to remove his name. In a letter Ramaswamy shared with Fox News Digital, the WEF apologized for its mistake of including him on the list without his permission, and noted internal changes it made to its process to ensure no such failure would happen in the future."
I watched it. There were so many important questions Fox did not address. I really wasn't impressed with any candidate. Blabbering is a good way to describe the entire shi*show. Ramaswamy probably came out on top amongst a bunch of subpar candidates. Right now, RFK Jr. would have my vote.
No interest in watching the debate last night. It’s why I came here for the recap. 👍🏻😁
By my read Jordan is saying Trump won.
I haven't seen the Trump-Tucker interview yet but heard it was rather underwhelming
Not a lot of "sparks flying" unlike its billing. I retain my right to have suspicions about Tucker, on Musk's platform, and what made it through editing. But it was pretty dull for those who've seen his unedited rallies.
But there was nothing on the stage in Wisconsin to move any voters from Trump's column. And probably many voters who want "Trumpism without Trump" or Trump policies without Trump baggage are scratching their heads and concluding it may not be possible from that crew and they'll have to hold their noses again and vote for Trump.
Trump didn't lose any voters. The Fox stage didn't gain any voters. And quite possibly lost voters, now weighing choosing None of the Above vs reluctantly voting for Trump.
He droned on about the Panama Canal way too long on his point about China being our threat
You're cum drunk.
I’m not voting ever again until the true United States of America comes back (pre-1913, etc.). It’s a waste of time. We’ve all been had. What a joke...on the world. The USA is evil.
Renee Marie: It is my humble opinion that our Constitutional Republic permanently fell during the 2016 presidential election on July 5 when FBI Director James Comey “exonerated” Hillary Clinton for the illegal server and the thousands of her classified emails. At that point in American history the “rule of law” began its demise and because the constitutional provisions for remedy to the ensuing felonious acts and omissions (FISA Court) of James Comey, et.al were never pursued; our Constitutional Republic has fallen and is irreparable and the four unconstitutional indictments of Donald Trump is my proof.
Please be cognizant, the Comey/Hillary Clinton "exoneration" was three weeks prior to the July 2016 Oval Office meeting orchestrated by President Barack Hussein Obama and attended by Vice President Joe Biden, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, national security adviser Susan Rice and CIA Director John Brennan.
According to CIA Director John Brennan’s handwritten notes, Brennan informed attendees of alleged approval by Hillary Clinton on July 26, 2016, of “a proposal from one of her foreign policy advisors to vilify candidate Donald Trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by Russian security services.” In other words, a scandal about collusion with Russia. According to an official CIA memo, the intent of this Clinton campaign plan was “distracting the public from her use of a private email server.”
Later it was shown that the plan was enacted via the Steele dossier, which Robby Mook, Clinton’s former campaign director, acknowledged under oath in 2022 to have procured. So explosive were Brennan’s notes that Republican U.S. senators needed a federal court order, issued four years after Obama’s Oval Office meeting, to wrest a copy of it from the Department of Justice. Released along with Brennan’s notes was a copy of a CIA memo sent to FBI Director James Comey and Peter Strzok, the deputy assistant director of the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division, delineating Barack Hussein Obama’s Oval Office meeting’s discussion.
If you know anything of the Communist takeover of Russia by Stalin and Lenin you can easily see the four indictments of Donald Trump are "Stalin's show trials" circa 2023, with Obama orchestrating via-fax from his basement in Washington, DC.
Therefore because our Constitutional Republic is fallen; as We the People encounter the 2024 election cycle, it is wise to conduct yourselves as living in a “Post-Constitutional Republic”. I compare it to the time of Jesus Christ living in Roman occupied Jerusalem/Judea/Samaria.
With due respect, the Republic fell WAY before that bullshit.
Yes you are correct Renee Marie, "the Republic fell WAY before that bullshit" of Barack Hussein Obama in 2016 weaponizing the levers of the US government against a political opponent named Donald J. Trump.
As you know Renee, in the preamble of the July 4th, 1776 Declaration of Independence, a government obtains its legitimacy ("just powers") from the "consent of the governed". Therefore, given the fallen state of our Constitutional Republic, I am deeply perplexed on voting for anyone other than Trump in 2024. If I vote for anyone else, I then would be giving my consent to be governed and therefore by my vote I would give an unconstitutional US government a legitimacy it does not deserve.
FYI: The reason I would vote for Donald J. Trump in 2024 is because I believe the number one threat facing the world is that the war in Ukraine escalates into a nuclear exchange between Russia and the US during Joe Biden's watch. If however the world is spared from nuclear war between the US and Russia before the 2024 election, then it is my opinion the only man on the planet with the grit to stop Putin and end the war in Ukraine is Donald J. Trump. If however Donald Trump is in prison and Joe Biden or any other Democrat is President, then the end of civilization and the human species is inevitable because of nuclear winter from the nuclear fallout.
yes, very much so
Trump interview was a bit of a rambling mess, IMO. The most telling parts of that interview were questions where Trump was most deflecting: 1) Epstein 2) What to do about CIA/FBI if elected 3) Potential for Civil War
I listened to it on the way to work. He should have taken a strong stand against the “are we headed for civil war” question IMO.
Fuck you and your Jewish god.
That Civil War started defacto on Jan6-2021 when DJT and all his fellow RINO Politicians, State & Local included, actively participated in certifying a Fraud Election, most notably caused by "Swing States" Michigulag&Pennsyvania Sell-Outs that actually have enough Electoral Votes to have made a difference... yet the Criminals in Georgia get to prosecute him and put him in jail potentially (all for Civil War fodder, of course).
Rallying the Patriots to come to DC and then head home to the WH to watch the orchestrated chaos from the comfort and protection of the Secret Service Handlers told me all I needed to know about Donald the Actor. AFter 4 years of his overrated reign, culminating in Operation WArp Speed Lockdowns during his last year, Election Fraud was inevitable. All part of the Bigger School Play.
My choice for 2024: NONE OF THE ABOVE
Our Republic is cooked, so stop pretending by voting in Sham Elections.
Note: it was an edited product. We don't know what got cut. And it is on Musk's platform. Fwiw.
Agree. I was seriously disappointed but not surprised.
I *especially* didn't like his answer about Epstein. "He probably did kill himself, coming from where he came from looking at what he was facing."
What better excuse could he give any potential captors of him than what came out of his mouth? Not a smart answer for a very stable genius who could possibly be looking at what he's facing coming from where he's coming from.
I like the guy, despite his many self-inflicted wounds and the wounds on the nation his flu response was. And because he isn't a puppet of global malevolent criminals. Unlike everyone else on that stage in Wisconsin, including Vivek. I like him for the same reason Lincoln liked US Grant: He fights, he's indispensable to the cause. A great general, indispensable, though not a great president for the many poor judgments he's made. Such as his speculation about Epstein being dumb to say. Very dumb to say facing what he's facing.
I think Trump won today with that Churchillian mugshot. What a photo, it will go down in history. Now I want to get that printed on T-shirt with no captions, and walk around my Blue State community and see who comments. The Left has so overplayed their hand. This action today is going to expose deep state for more white, suburban housewives. Our country and government is corrupt and broken.
Interesting that the trans/lgbt ideology that is threatening to tear our educational institutions a part was totally ignored. As a parent I found this offensive. Blue states are actively trying to subvert parental rights over these issues via schools. Bret Bair is a joke.
They presented anthropogenic climate change as a thing, and only VR had the nads to call bullshit on it That said more about the politics of the other candidates than anything else .
This is Vivek's exact strategy: boldly say all the things the average conservative wants to hear but none of the other candidates will say. He's a fake.
Given that a "sincere politician" is a contradiction in terms, that is always a possibility.
Is he more or less fake than the other candidates up on that stage?
Tactically, he came into the debate with a good plan and executed that plan rather well. If he is the Soros wolf in sheep's clothing you say he is, then he's a potent threat. If he's Donald Trump, the next generation, he's still a potent threat, just from a different direction.
Capt Deplorable says we debunked the Soros connection - money came from his estranged brother.
If there was any lingering doubt that they weren’t completely captured, that has now been answered by their presentation of climate change as fact without any real facts to back it up.
He said the “climate change agenda” is a hoax—which seems obvious. Even my friend who’s a huge climate alarmist agrees
most of the measures (the agenda) in the works are silly. Perhaps I missed VR saying whether or not he believes anthropogenic climate change is happening.
It's pretty hard to argue anthropogenic climate change while advocating more burning of coal.
Some feel it’s happening, but it’s not an emergency and is a tradeoff. We get civilization in exchange for a small rise in temperature. He said fossil fuels are necessary for society.
There are those who use that rationale. Although I tend to suspect that vis-a-vis calling climate change a hoax that rationale is a distinction without much difference.
No matter how it got said, VR came out swinging against the current regime's "green energy" agenda.
Really? You are being robbed blind and being setup to be incinerated via thermonuclear attack by the US elites and their bought and paid for lackeys in DC and you are worried about the LGBT garbage, which is more or less a distraction to keep social conservatives from focusing on the elephant in the room, which is massive grift and warmongering via DC.
Vivek says everything you want to hear and more in a perfectly polished package. He's the High School guy running for student council promising everything from a soda machine in the lunch room to no school on Fridays. He is a WEF puppet, I'm just not sure what the actual goal is?
Really? You think people want to hear about how fatherlessness and demise of nuclear family are at the root of all our societal ills? That’s what Vivek said on stage last night. None of the others had balls to touch on that truth. Was VR the only one on stage or in Tucker’s studio last night that actually talked about the future? I think he might also have been the only one w/ closing monologue that didn’t mention ‘Biden’. But if you see him as bought and paid for by Soros then not a thing he says will mean anything to you except that he’s a smooth talking fake. Yeah, VR had some really questionable actions on Covid data collection, Big Pharma. I’d like to see him questioned on that.
Capt Deplorable says we debunked the Soros connection - money came from his estranged brother. And, according to https://www.foxnews.com/politics/vivek-ramaswamy-settles-lawsuit-world-economic-forum-donate-money, "Ramaswamy slapped the organization with a lawsuit in a Cincinnati, Ohio court in April after it failed to remove his name from its 2021 list of Young Global Leaders even though he declined the nomination to the list and requested multiple times for them to remove his name. In a letter Ramaswamy shared with Fox News Digital, the WEF apologized for its mistake of including him on the list without his permission, and noted internal changes it made to its process to ensure no such failure would happen in the future."
Simple question: do you agree with what he said?
Yes it was what a conservative crowd would want to hear, but, setting aside the identity of the speaker, do you believe that VR's message was true?
Vivek's "happy warrior" act may not have been "Presidential", but within the framework of the debate he showed he could go head to head against a cadre of the political establishment and more than hold his own.
He needed to raise his name recognition, and he succeeded. Like Trump in that first debate in 2016, he needed to show he belonged on that stage and he did exactly that.
Vivek is a polished WEF Soros plant. Just look into the enormous list of accomplishments in his 38 years and close ties to big pharma, etc. Something is amiss.
And the rest are as Vivek rightly dubbed them : ‘Super PAC Puppets’
Also true. It's an awful group.
Capt Deplorable says we debunked the Soros connection - money came from his estranged brother. And, according to https://www.foxnews.com/politics/vivek-ramaswamy-settles-lawsuit-world-economic-forum-donate-money, "Ramaswamy slapped the organization with a lawsuit in a Cincinnati, Ohio court in April after it failed to remove his name from its 2021 list of Young Global Leaders even though he declined the nomination to the list and requested multiple times for them to remove his name. In a letter Ramaswamy shared with Fox News Digital, the WEF apologized for its mistake of including him on the list without his permission, and noted internal changes it made to its process to ensure no such failure would happen in the future."
Pedro & Ki,
What are your thoughts about VR’s winning lawsuit against WEF?
You’ve both made posts that VR is Soros WEF plant. Vivek sued WEF for false association, and won. Was that lawsuit also a deep fake play?
He's running for Trump's VP pick.
If he is, then he's the most astute and realistic one of the bunch. Nothing happened last night to shake off Trump's dominance in the polls. Whether Trump gets the GOP nod or not is far more likely to be determined by Jack Smith than the debates.
WEF Soros Big Pharma Vivek? Naive.
Regardless of his presumed allegiancea he still has to establish himself as a plausible President to achieve his objectives, whatever they are. He made progress on that front.
Capt Deplorable says we debunked the Soros connection - money came from his estranged brother. And, according to https://www.foxnews.com/politics/vivek-ramaswamy-settles-lawsuit-world-economic-forum-donate-money, "Ramaswamy slapped the organization with a lawsuit in a Cincinnati, Ohio court in April after it failed to remove his name from its 2021 list of Young Global Leaders even though he declined the nomination to the list and requested multiple times for them to remove his name. In a letter Ramaswamy shared with Fox News Digital, the WEF apologized for its mistake of including him on the list without his permission, and noted internal changes it made to its process to ensure no such failure would happen in the future."
Christie is windbag. Someone needs to confront him for the cameras after one of his bully attacks and tell him to take his mafia boss tough guy routine and shove it up his big fat ass.
I've seen clips of him doing his same bully act at ordinary voters with policy differences at GOP meetings he's attending, not even featured. Gotta punch a bully in the face, they're not used to it. Watch him drop or lose his shit. If he threatens to fight, meet it with a cold stare and say "come at me, tough guy, give me what you got fatso." He loses. Unpresidential. He doesn't have the character or disposition to respond in any way that could be considered presidential.
You have to understand something about Christie Cremes - the man is a bona fide sociopath who truly and honestly believes his own lies! He is completely and totally delusional! Lives in a world entirely devoid of all truth! He will tell you that he had nothing to do with Bridge Gate because in his sick and mentally deranged mind - he didn't! It's only a matter of time given his morbid obesity (and asthma) he pops his clogs! NJ Is totally white trash and he personifies it!
LOL "Christie Cremes" is top-notch
Yep. Bullies are weak. They bully to compensate for their weakness. A (rhetorical) punch in the face exposes their weakness. Will either whimper or explode. Both disqualifying.
A bully is nothing more than a coward
Reminder that Vivek's in the race to take away votes from DeSantis and help Trump. He's Soros guy.
That talking point is a bit hypocritical when DeSantis’ rapid response director worked for the Open Society Foundation
The DeSantis campaign staff are incompetent. So much so that it begins to look more like enemy action than mere incompetence.
LOL
C'mon, get real. National hero DeSantis led the way in opposing the Covid Atrocities.
Now that doesn't necessarily mean he's the right candidate for this election. But it's obscene to put a minor Enemy of the Human Race like Kemp in the same category as a national hero.
I'm talking about DeSantis vs Vivek.
Indeed you were it still does not negate my point. If a connection to Soros is a big deal then DeSantis has one right in his inner circle.
Too bad the RNC kept Larry Elder out of the debate. I suspect they were afraid he'd show some facts and good option against the RNC placed "favorites". Glad I missed the debate. Watched Trump and Tucker, along with 78.4 million others (at the time of my viewing)
How many of them discussed the injection holocaust? Anyone NOT discussing that is ok with that and as such is NOT fit for anything
That’s why in part, I’d guess Jordan gave FOX an F. FOX didn’t ask about the vaccines. Tucker can also F off for not pressing Trump about Warp Speed.
I never thought for one second Tucker would bring it up. He's as bad as the rest. And as for the ones on Fox, the moderators not asking about it is no excuse IMO. There is nothing more important issue IMO than stopping the injections. We lost 3000 on 911 and started two bullshit wars over that. The numbers from the injection dwarf that many times over and its fucking crickets. Silence at this point is inexcusable and leads me to believe they are all happy with it and are also happy to be commander in chief while the DoD is running a psychological and biological war against us all.
Have you two seen this report on McKinsey? Very enlightening how governments and the top companies all use them and pay them big money for “consulting” fees on how to destroy anything. The coordinated covid response could have been orchestrated through McKinsey.
https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/is-mckinsey-and-company-the-deep?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=436968&post_id=135759374&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email
I've never heard of this particular company (or the name doesn't ring a bell at least), but i am aware there have been firms like this over the years that would do similar. I shall check it then.
RFK Jr 2024!
He is the only one talking about actual important issues I'll give him that. No chance of winning, but at least he is addressing things
I don’t agree that Tucker is as bad as the rest. He is more free than many others. That said, he played to base by not questioning Trump on vax. Missed opportunity. It could have given a Trump an open ended chance to give updated reply based on re-calibrate/reflection on mRNA efficacy
He followed orders. He's not better than the rest. He is portrayed to be. But he isn't and the fact he didn't ask Trump a single thing about covid proves it. I don't care what his reasons are. They are malicious, and there is zero excuse for silence on the issue. If he was better than the rest, he would have asked real questions, just like his pathetic 12 hr slurp fest on Blaze. 12 hrs, no covid questions. He is carefully crafted limited hangout being used to draw people into Elon's Blue Check ID Verification trap.
That's besides the point. People demanded war over 3000. Nobody is demanding anything over this. And save your lectures about false flags and the presstitutes. Old news.
Again, save the lectures. Old news.
Whatever dude. Keep making excuses for this ongoing holocaust.
That was a huge miss and major disappointment from Tucker. He pressed Hutchinson, but can’t challenge the guy who takes credit for it?
Miss? No. He gets his orders from above just like the rest of them. I would have never expected it to come from Tucker or the Fox debate. They are all working against us.
I wanted to see Larry Elder up there.
Agree FOX bombed the debate. There wasn’t anything there that is important to GOP voters other than Haley talking about spending. Fox leaned into irrelevant questions re: UFO’s & climate change. Not enough attention on immigration and the border. Complete disappointment.
I lost respect for Tucker. As I suspected, Tucker didn't have the balls to ask Trump about his "beautiful shot". He had no problem beating up on the emasculated Asa Hutchinson, but wimped out calling out Trump on his Big Pharma pimping.
Today, President Donald J. Trump awarded Presidential Commendations to the below individuals in recognition of their exceptional efforts on Operation Warp Speed:
General Mark Milley
Secretary Alex Azar
Jared Kushner
Dr. Moncef Slaoui
General Gustave Perna
Dr. Deborah Birx
Dr. Anthony Fauci
You mean on Jan 19, 2021? Operation Warp Speed is a mystery. I'm not sure why he supports that. Does he still? Did someone get to him?
Trump promoted the boosters to boos at a rally. Trump is proud of OWS.
Oh, I know - but is he still doing that in Aug 2023?
I think the concern is nobody knows because no interviewer has asked Trump. The eye rolling is Tucker had chance to do that last night and didn't. Or if he did, it fell to the edit cutting floor
I saw a tweet from him in something like 2014 and he was calling out the vaccines and the harms coming from them. Then, promoting OWS in 2020 - some have said someone got to him. The vax is one thing that really hurts Trump and so I'm not sure what's going on there. Does he realize the amount of harm that's come from it, or not? Or does his ego (or something else) prevent him from taking ownership of the fact that big pharma and/or the globalists screwed him? He didn't personally create those poisons, but he's essentially promoting them, and I don't get the disconnect that is so different from his other America-first policies.
After last night, I'm hoping people take a serious look at RFK Jr or Cornell West so we can break through the duopoly and shake out the corporate cobwebs. Wouldn't it be worth the risk to vote in a candidate that the duopoly hates? Why are we all so attached to our party labels? They are as authentic as those Gucci handbags from China.
Vivek can speak well. He does well with the crowd who doesn’t pay attention to the fact he’s changed positions on everything a lot. He’s a businessman who says what we want to hear but has no record so he can’t be pinned down. A movie that last ran in 2015.
A movie that ran and that prior outsider who also changed positions a lot — did us all the extremely valuable service of exposing the Uniparty, the managerial class and dangers of 3-Letter agencies to our country. Why would we not want to take a chance on now trying to dismantle what has been so plainly exposed?
Who is going to do that? Vivek or Trump? What evidence have you seen either can. Vivek hasn’t been anything and Trump got rolled by everyone. DeSantis is the only one who has a record of doing that. He deDemocrated Florida but apparently he doesn’t put on a good enough show for a lot of people.
Trump was the outsider in 2015 that exposed what I stated. By Trump being unexpectedly elected all became exposed as they tried to take him down. It already happened. My point is what are the next steps to now dismantle/disarm that exposed, deep state. Trump isn’t the long term answer, and he’s only 3 years younger than this guy:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/15zkqgo/that_look_says_it_all/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
I don’t know who’s going to do it. Tucker touched on maybe if Trump keeps it up, they will JFK him. Nobody on the debate stage last night, except VR, gave me any glimpse of having ability to challenge deep state. Maybe the answer is Youngkin, and how well he does in fight w/ Virginia teachers Union, although that guy made his name in one of the worlds largest Private Equity mega funds (Carlyle Group)
The immediate first step is to not elect Trump. From the current crop of candidates DeSantis is the only one who has experience in fighting the system. That being said we have to assist by not sending these pathetic swamp creatures that are only working for their own longevity. This is not a short term fight but we have to be worried as much about building a future as settling scores from the past.
I tend to agree, but DeSantis has been a beta this whole campaign.
I wouldn’t necessarily say beta but I think he exhibited more fire last night than anytime I’ve seen prior. I tend to think of him more as a “nerd assassin “. He isn’t particularly animated. Unlike Trump he doesn’t tweet about what he’s thinking, he just quietly does the thing.
I don't need or want him to be Trumpy, but he needs to command and exhibit gravitas. He's been low energy and too buttoned up. Turns me off with his strange choice of words as well.
Good assessment. DeSantis fumbled on the Ukraine question and Vivek was strong on that one. I'd still choose the former. Don't trust Vivek's flip-flopping. He seems pretty finger-to-the-wind to me.
Vivek was only truth teller. The rest are has-been’s or war lovers. DeSantis continues to uninspire. The time-out bell sounded like Wheel of Fortune but these candidates didn’t have answer to the most important puzzle question because FOX moderators never directly asked about it:
The Economy
WEF Soros Big Pharma Vivek? LOL.
Capt Deplorable says we debunked the Soros connection - money came from his estranged brother. And, according to https://www.foxnews.com/politics/vivek-ramaswamy-settles-lawsuit-world-economic-forum-donate-money, "Ramaswamy slapped the organization with a lawsuit in a Cincinnati, Ohio court in April after it failed to remove his name from its 2021 list of Young Global Leaders even though he declined the nomination to the list and requested multiple times for them to remove his name. In a letter Ramaswamy shared with Fox News Digital, the WEF apologized for its mistake of including him on the list without his permission, and noted internal changes it made to its process to ensure no such failure would happen in the future."
Steveo, appreciate your sharing Vivek lawsuit against the WEF. There is blackballing of VR going on here that feels slimy
I watched it. There were so many important questions Fox did not address. I really wasn't impressed with any candidate. Blabbering is a good way to describe the entire shi*show. Ramaswamy probably came out on top amongst a bunch of subpar candidates. Right now, RFK Jr. would have my vote.