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Oh, one more thing.

What is your Preferred Form of Governance?

Please be specific.

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I follow your thoughts through this, very much so. But much of what you suggest would be our Constitutional Republic if we hadn't let it become corrupted. And I believe we can very much return to this. It should truly be, in order of power:

We the People

County

State

Federal Govt.

We should return to the gold standard and use lawful money. We need to rid ourselves of all alphabet agencies. Bring back out manufacturing. No more big govt and no more large corporations.

I don't think we have to throw away the foundation just because a bunch of idiots took down the brick house and built circus on it. We can remove the circus and start fresh.

I have become an American State National, trying to put together our de jure govt.

TASA.americanstatenationals.org

It is maybe 95% on track, perhaps with a handful of modifications and additions, but this is what we need to be doing... And once completed, making sure we never get in this spot again.

But yes, common law, common words, common sense. And truly, this is by, for, of the people - there should not be many if any full-time govt employees. This should be rare we need to meet at the fed level, maybe monthly at the state, and twice a month at the county. We should be able to hold full-time jobs and help out with our own governance.

We've handed the control away, our duties and responsibilities to people who do not have our interests in mind. It is long overdue that we take our country back.

No divide and conquer BS - we need the 90%+ in the middle to stop arguing about Red v Blue, male v female, black v white, as nauseam. We need to get our $h!t together and recreate our land of the free and home of the brave.

-John on Maine

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Proving you wrong, in this case, would be like trying to prove a negative. Let's simplify this equation. The fact that we have given corporations a sort of immunity would no longer be present.

So take glyphosate as an example, but can be applied to all of what you have listed and much of what you haven't. We know this chemical causes injury (and really serves no purpose than to enrich the fat cats at the corporation). In this case, the company gets dissolved immediately and all profiting lose all these profits, gains, and brought to common law courts to plead their case. Because we are talking a shift in our approach, in this case perhaps we go a little easier on them. But set the precedent that any corporation and the people in charge no longer have protections from personal liability. If their actions injury, maim, or kill others knowingly, they can be dragged to court in front of a jury of their peers, and face steep fines, prison time, and death.

There are rights we all have. And generally we are all free people so long as we don't harm others and their property.

And regarding technology. It is both a blessing and a curse. And almost without fail, this depends on the hands whatever technology is in as to whether it can be used for benefit or for evil purposes.

I do think we in America should continue to create technologies that both protect our borders as well as thrive as people. How much hidden technology has been "bought" by these corp oligarchies in collusion with our corporate govt and subdued...?

This is no small task to take back out inherent rights and our country from the hands of these vermin and set it on a positive path, but this certainly beats the alternative.

And what I meant by 90%+ is that if you were to take away all the boxes of division that our govt has pushed the general population to choose and jump into, we'd have well over 90%+ of our American population who would actually agree with almost everything we are saying here. They may not comprehend all of it, but they'd agree that America is on a bad trajectory. What they don't know is that if we the people were to set down our petty differences, we hold the power to replace this tyrannical corp govt crime syndicate, this defacto pretend system they have us believing is our actual government, with a de jure govt based on our foundational lawful documents and start anew.

And yes, we can shore up some of the principals in these documents, one such thing would be an ability to restart the system again from scratch like I'm suggesting here, either with a vote or every fifty or one hundred years. This way, We the People can more easily course correct. And also, I'd add in that all of our founding documents, including the articles of confederation, should be taught in schools and every year.

As should we the people have our local militia and have our (older) children all learn the skills necessary to protect our borders and our freedoms - in whatever way each town, district, county decides is important and necessary for them.

I do comprehend the concerns with tech, but I also see the amazing progress we could make as a country if we used these techs for our benefits rather than what we are doing today.

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All of this stuff is purposefully not taught in school, and even when it is touched upon, it is muffled and with a purpose to mislead.

And while I do agree with the concern of voting and saying the silent words out loud, the people voting would vote with self-interest, this is not quite how it is supposed to operate.

Rather, one goes from State National and takes on the duty as a State Citizen - citizen truly meaning servant of the people - the sole responsibility is to apply the common law as written in our founding documents, the framework already provided. And yes, this does oversimplify things a bit, but in many ways, it also makes it both easy and freeing.

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I'll answer your second part later. The first one, let me share a link that does a better job of explaining (this one was essentially part of an assembly meeting and I found that this helps to answer additional questions because it's peeps talking through stuff - rather than someone just reading off a paper...)

::: https://ugetube.com/watch/the-5-citizens-chart-the-georgia-assembly-coordinator-niko_h36vnievfZn8lTR.html

Quickly, the founders did not agree on everything, and we the people will certainly not agree on everything. There was compromise and passionate debate writing our founding docs. And we as a nation must come together and do the same. Being as divided as we are leads us down a path we may not recover from.

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Who does the investigating when a person's rights are violated? What if the investigators turn out to be liars or corrupt? Who decides the punishment and carries out the discipline? Make stockades great again ЁЯШВ

I'm interested in learning more...

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Peace Keeping Officers do. And if they are corrupt, they are held personally liable for such and justice is served to the extent of their crimes.

A common law court, a jury of their peers. And yes, if egregious enough, certainly stockades are a very necessary tool to show others what happens when the law is broken.

There will always be a criminal element in any system. I'd just like to see them taken out of our government, larger corps, alphabet agencies, etc.

But if we hold true to our values and morals and follow the foundational documents - there will be infinitely less to deal with. Crimes get punished in a fair and just way. People can't hide behind corporations where they can make 500 billion knowing that they will be fined 10 billion because that's how the game works. No, in this case "Bob" the CEO of Liarser Inc withheld data from the public. He was arrested, a trial of his peers found him to be guilty of maiming and killing countless civilians across the world, his assets as well as the company's have been confiscated and distributed to a fund to help pay for the lives effected, and Bob is guilty and his punishment is death by hanging in two weeks time in the town square at high noon.

FU very much Bob.

Once personal liability and accountability is back in the table, and people see a just and honest system back in place again, most will be civil and peaceful and not pull this kind of crap.

We have overcomplicated everything and we need to return to simple, common sense, common law... A constitutional republic.

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Yes, the results of the nanny state are very clear, I totally get it. But most Americans take the path of least resistance. Most people are addicted to television and do exactly as they are told. I haven't had a tv for decades. With all that spare time I learned to raise and slaughter chickens and sheep. I know how to sew, cook, make soap, garden, wire a house, do any and all home repairs, heal myself, etc. so I'm not personally worried no matter what happens.

But envious hungry people get desperate and violent. I'm pretty sure they don't want to be responsible for themselves. So what does this look like, a bloodbath until all of the idjits are culled? Then we can be civil?

And who is in charge of energy resources? Seems to me that's the lynchpin.

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I guess my answer would be a little of both. I do enjoy having interesting conversations with people and I do want to learn more about their ideas. But it doesn't need to be a faceless person on a screen, it's simply that I don't know anyone in my daily life with truly interesting ideas or any real depth of thought for that matter. It probably doesn't help that I recently moved to my current location and haven't had a lot of time to search for likeminded people. I love my neighbors and extended family, they're pleasant people and certainly nice enough. But in all honesty they're very shallow, so I keep turning to the internet to find people with interesting things to say. I hope I don't come off as cynical...I feel like I'm searching the web for hope that humanity (in America specifically) isn't as doomed as it appears to me right now. ЁЯЩВ

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