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Pete Ross's avatar

Surprise du Jour!

Philip Joseph's avatar

An extreme radical environmental group for those activists who believe the earth is overpopulated with humans, animals have equal rights to humans, was formed during the 80s to be more extreme than the likes of the Sierra Club, both precursors for today’s unhinged environmental activism. Their slogan “No compromise in defense of Mother Earth.”

Richard's avatar

Communism is an actual movement capable of doing a 180 overnight as on June 22-23, 1941. Of course, it was and is a highly centralized movement. For a modern equivalent, you would need to look further east than Moscow.

That said, based on local activity, I think there is an actual grassroots conservative resistance. It is not opposed to AI per se but to the data centers necessary to run it. It is rural and the issues revolve around water, power and land use.

Freedom Fox's avatar

About those data centers necessary to run AI as envisioned by the engineers of man, society, leaders/rulers.

We know for a fact that this AI-driven system is being built around us. Billions and billions and billions of dollars (Carl Sagan voice) invested in Worldwide Social Credit Systems. Not whimsical investments plopped down on "red" at roulette tables:

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20211223005270/en/Worldwide-Social-Credit-Industry---Infrastructure-to-Support-Social-Credit-Systems-Represents-a-%2416.1-Billion-Opportunity-by-2026---ResearchAndMarkets.com

"The COVID-19 pandemic has facilitated substantial interest in citizen monitoring solutions

--Infrastructure to support social credit systems represents a $16.1B global opportunity by 2026

--Cameras and other optical equipment for social credit systems will reach $723M globally by 2026

--Advanced computing will be used in conjunction with AI to provide nearly flawless identification and tracking

--Social credit systems represent the ability to identify (mostly people but also some "things") and track activities for purposes of grading behaviors and applying "social credit" scoring. A given grading/scoring methodology depends largely on social credit system objectives and metrics.

However, most systems will have socially acceptable behaviour at their core. This presents both a challenge and an opportunity as a combination of government, companies, and society as a whole must determine "good", "bad", and "marginal" behavior within the social credit market.

Beginning as a trend largely orthogonal to public safety and homeland security concerns, the market for social credit system infrastructure will ultimately become a mainstream component of both business and public policy."

FF - And we know, for a fact that the wealthiest people in the world are looking to AI as the tool that will ensure the lesser masses of people will, "behave."

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/09/omnipresent-ai-cameras-will-ensure-good-behavior-says-larry-ellison/

"Ellison, who briefly became the world’s second-wealthiest person last week when his net worth surpassed Jeff Bezos’ for a short time, outlined a scenario where AI models would analyze footage from security cameras, police body cams, doorbell cameras, and vehicle dash cams.

“Citizens will be on their best behavior because we are constantly recording and reporting everything that’s going on,” Ellison said, describing what he sees as the benefits from automated oversight from AI and automated alerts for when crime takes place. “We’re going to have supervision,” he continued. “Every police officer is going to be supervised at all times, and if there’s a problem, AI will report the problem and report it to the appropriate person.”"

FF - We know that the ACLU has raised alarms about facial recognition capabilities of authorities and private parties, and as Larry Ellison pointed out AI-driven:

https://web.archive.org/web/20200506090342/https://www.aclu.org/news/free-speech/americas-mask-bans-in-the-age-of-face-recognition-surveillance/

"But it’s the spread of facial recognition that is likely to raise the stakes around anti-mask laws the most. The more accurate and widespread the technology becomes, the more situations will arise where people won’t want to show their faces. The cameras that increasingly surround us will allow the police to cheaply and easily identify us — and who we’re with, even if part of a giant crowd.

It gets even worse when we realize that we can be identified that way repeatedly, with our presence recorded in databases and automated algorithms used to flag repeat protest activity, associational patterns, or anything else the authorities might want to know.

And of course it’s not just the authorities who can use face recognition. Even if we restrict its use by government, private parties who have access to photographs of a controversial event will be able to use them to identify us and harass us, retaliate against us at work, or worse."

FF - Here's the consumer versions of AI facial recognition software available. Doxxers use these tools. Military/Intelligence/LEO-grade versions are much more sophisticated, not available to consumers:

https://www.guru99.com/face-recognition-search-engines.html

FF - This is consumer-facing hi-res, interactive imaging technology...since before 2012! Which means Military/Intelligence/LEO-grade imaging technology not available to consumers was even more sophisticated:

GigaPan https://gigapan.com

I chose the highest gigapixel image I could find on GigaPan to explore:

Suria, Barcelona, Spain, 99.13 gigapixels, April 20, 2013

https://gigapan.com/gigapans/129541

I zoomed in from the image above and took screenshots at different distances, put together a collage of the image as I zoomed in on a subject:

https://i.imgflip.com/aphu18.jpg

Notice the distance of the first picture. Then notice the level of detail of the closest zoomed picture. Remember, this was imaging technology released to public consumers nearly fifteen (15) years ago. How much more sophisticated is the iPhone 17 Pro Max today compared to an iPhone 5 from 2012? And an iPhone 18 is due to launch in a few months. Same technological leaps in imaging technology. Remember, Military/Intelligence/LEO has MUCH more sophisticated technology than what is released to the general public.

This technology exists. All around us today. As the ACLU cautioned in 2020, it is very prone to abuse, particularly in the hands of abusive leaders (rulers). ONLY AI can take massive amounts of data and make them make sense in any sort of reasonable application. The human resources necessary to make ALL of the data available make sense has been the only restriction on it being abused up until now. Reactively gathered, rarely proactively.

AI Data Centers take the imaging data intended to "make us behave" as Ellison boasts. And all data from all sources today. Public-facing and private-facing alike, all is collected on some computers somewhere, even if just passing through.

All internet activity, personal and work, is data on server somewhere. What's on individual computers that's ever been connected to the internet, capable of remote viewing. With or without user permission. Banking data, transactions. Store purchases, member card histories. Websites visited, how long on any given page. Data on car computers like location, speed history, climate/music controls. Anything and everything on cell phones, audio, video data, scroll, zoom data. Medical records, visits, veterinarian data, all professional services, hair salon visit, style, frequency data. All customer data for all businesses using the internet. Surveillance camera data at street intersections, license plate readers, toll road transponder data. Ring camera data canvassing entire neighborhoods data. Fitbit app data, all app data. Alexa always listening data. All government records data. Genealogy records, social media records, known associate/circles records.

Anything and everything that we do today in our day-to-day lives is captured as data that exists somewhere on some server as data. Even hiking in national parks where cameras are positioned, beach cameras, ski cameras showing conditions, data. Satellite cameras, data, zoomable to read license plates and hair styles, color faces from space. Building cameras atop skyscrapers pointed downward, data. Telescopes used by hobbyist astronomers that's connected to skywatching apps, maybe trained across town instead of the sky, on buildings down the block, data.

It's all data, nearly every nook and cranny of human existence now exists as data somewhere.

Snowdon revealed only a tiny glimpse of the types of data that's accessible.

Any privacy and anonymity we believe we have rests on the capacity and desire to focus resources on us by the surveillance state; it's all there. And sheer numbers of us, amount of data, in different databases makes it useless.

What are AI Data Centers built out all over the country and world being designed to do? Just massive data repositories that will sit passively on the data until directed to search for patterns, targets of focused attention? Just for Walmart, Amazon to make Just-in-Time inventory more efficient? What are brand new nuclear power plants being built to power AI Data Centers for that's important enough to toss safety concerns that idled and decommissioned them for four decades? Gets Bill Gates to declare "Climate Change" wasn't that bad after all, time to tap that clean coal?

AI Data Centers are the resources necessary to take ALL of the data that exists everywhere always, real-time and make sense, patterns, profiles on every single one of us. Even without doing anything to earn focused resource attention. No commission of horrific crimes necessary. 330 million profiles possible in real time. Including location.

Movies like Minority Report, "pre-crime" units become reality. And Jordan is distracted and trying to distract us from this invisible prison reality being constructed around us in real-time with a "Humans First is Astroturf" distraction?

Please, Jordan, I started following you as a voice of reason during plandemic. I'm not here to slam you. If you really are the person who cared about violations of freedom and rights in 2020-2023 you should be able to give voice to and understand the legitimate concerns being raised by those of us alarmed and working to alarm the world around us of the peril in AI without adequate protections for freedom and rights. Protections that failed during a rather pedestrian flu season. Intentionally exaggerated in service to building a worldwide population control system and grid. As the Worldwide Social Credit System acknowledges. Not conspiracy theory when they tell you explicitly what they intend. Do you care?

Freedom Fox's avatar

That wasn't just one-sided in 1941. 1939 was a sudden reversal, as well.

The Hitler-Stalin pact: discussion of the Non-Aggression Treaty and the secret protocols

January, 1992

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/234008336_The_Hitler-Stalin_pact_discussion_of_the_Non-Aggression_Treaty_and_the_secret_protocols

"There was a natural link. Economically speaking both states were closer structurally than they were to the capitalist countries. Ribbentrop noted in particular that both countries were, in fact, hostile to "capitalistic western democracies." Germany had economic four year plans. The Soviet Union had five year plans. Both maintained direct party and state control over the economic direction of their respective states. Germany still had private enterprise but the Nazi policy of GleichschaltunIg ensured the primacy of the state in economic matters."

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"And five days after Hitler's change of heart Schnurre met with Astakhov and Babarin in the Berlin Restaurant Ewest. They had a very extensive exchange of views that included the expression of a common opposition to the capitalist democracies. It was now openly stated that a rapprochement between the two countries corresponded with the vital interests of both."

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"Ribbentrop pointed out something which Stalin had stated in his March speech. Both considered the democratic and capitalist states as their respective enemies. "

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Stalin on the first proposed press release: "Don't you think that we have to pay a little more attention to public opinion in our countries? For many years now we have been pouring buckets of slop over each other's heads and our propaganda boys could never do enough in that direction; and now all of a sudden are we to make our peoples believe that all is forgotten and forgiven? Things don't work so fast. Public opinion in our country, and probably in Germany too, will have to be prepared slowly for the change in our relations this treaty is to bring about, and it will have to be made familiar with it.

A more modest statement was agreed to. At the end of the discussions champagne was served. Toasts to the treaty and the German people were made. Then Stalin proposed a toast to Hitler"

...

"Because of the results of the war and the "Manhattan Project", the United States took over the position held by Germany"

FF - Additional bonus in reading the .pdf is the information on Russia and Ukraine and Baltics that foretold the war in that part of the world today. Reading history informs the present. More than most could imagine. It's why we must learn history, lest we be doomed to repeat it. Authoritarians read history for a different lesson, lest they fail to subjugate us again.

Freedom Fox's avatar

Yes. Humans First is astroturf. Just like Extinction Rebellion (XR) and other progressive manifestations.

Doesn't mean the cause they are parading around under with dupliciotous intentions isn't real or legitimate. Finding astroturf movements and focusing on them, discrediting them is a tried and true tactic of those with other agendas, themselves ulterior and malevolent.

You think the AI industry is filled with saintly good faith benevolent investors and supporters?!?!?

Again, as shared many times now on your newly reformulated Stack, where's your concern for civil liberties, police state surveillance capacity of AI? Oppressive intentions being built into the design of the AI grid? Do you give two shits about those concerns, Jordan? After seeing, experiencing first hand the abuses of technology in public-private partnerships during plandemic, the Reischtag Fire J6 entrapment operation? How can you be so unconcerned about our rights, liberties, "public safety" negates individual rights as determined by whoever holds high office, positions of authority? Giving them a tool that becomes the most dangerous weapon ever invented when held in the wrong hands...as in plandemic and false flag J6?

Why, Jordan? Why ZERO interest and 100% trust of any hands your AI investor heroes are?

Ok, the Humans First movement is astroturf. Probably bought and paid for like many anti-oil groups are backed by Big Oil. Controlled opposition? Chaos agents? Conspiracy actors intended to discredit legitimate opposition, debate?

Tell you what, Jordan, try publishing a piece that seriously addresses the very real, very serious concerns that people tricked into joining astroturf groups like HF have? Do you have, do you possess a fair, unbiased voice? Can you articulate their concerns without mocking or denigrating them? Do you have any proposals to mitigate, prevent the concerns that animate them? Me?

If you can't, don't, won't then you are a shill. Not a good faith source. What are you, Jordan? What, who's agenda are you really serving? Speaking of astroturf. Are you astroturf?

Freedom Fox's avatar

Not a problem, Jordan?:

https://truthsocial.com/@libsoftiktok/posts/116422117291531774

Build the AI infrastructure, hand the keys over to the likes of them?

"You exaggerate the threat, won't happen, the American system and Constitution would *never* allow them to abuse the power of AI infrastructure! Nope! You're a fear-mongering astroturf peddler!"

Really? Requires the willing suspension of disbelief. The sheer abdication of responsibile citizenry, hope over experience. Only in Imagination Land is AI not a threat to humanity. Where's the debate, the adoption of impenetrable prohibitions of abuses, as we've suffered in fake health emergency declarations, fake insurrection declarations, fake 'gender-affirming care' justifications to silence debate, climate, all of the agendas of these f'ing freaks?!?!? Who would rule us by AI algorithminc loss of rights.

Do you even give two shits about the threat these types of people pose armed with empowered, robust AI tool infrastructure wielded as weapons?

CharlieSeattle's avatar

STOP using Acronyms and inside Jaron that no one understands.

EileenMc's avatar

Earth First! was/ is best for all. As ground zero goals and advocates as can be.