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Doug Ross's avatar

Jordan - Anthropic is funding the "evaluators" and everyone else in the Doomer Camp. There’s big money in panic. There’s even bigger money in regulatory capture. That's their endgame.

Give Democrats control of AI and it will turn out just as well as their handling of our retirement, healthcare, and education systems.

Here's my Charts: Who Profits When AI “Might Kill Us All”?

https://directorblue.substack.com/p/who-profits-when-ai-might-kill-us

Joseph Kaplan's avatar

AI doomers = more fear porn. After the scamdemic, climate change hoax, Russia hoax aren’t we smarter enough to recognize fear porn when it shows up again?

Ednor (Andy) Rowe's avatar

As presented, this reminds me so much of my wife and I, wishing to be relevant (too young to be hippies) gave much time and effort to the Wisconsin Nuclear Weapons Freeze Campaign, hated Reagan because of our blanket acceptance of mainstream news, and opposed the very policy Reagan used to defeat the USSR… China is now the global enemy & I see passionate young people going nuts just as we did. I became livid when Reagan said our Freeze campaign was Soviet funded… until, surprise, under the “glasnost” which followed his successful dismantling of Russia, KGB docs proved our group WAS funded by the Soviet KGB: Funny, I didn’t feel the envelopes we opened with small donations could really pay for the fancy busses we took from Madison to Central Park, NYC, upon my later reflection!

Ted's avatar

AI development is a military necessity, which is it's only true purpose; to break things and kill people. It is already causing civilian harm, and will do a great deal more of it.

If humans were not prone to psychopathy, preventing LLM development would be the best thing for human flourishing.

Whomever wins this race, dominates, so as with every other destructive thing mankind has invented, AI becomes part of the arsenal.

So be it; we are a destructive species that profits from misery and death.

Jason's avatar

The unfortunate reality is that Trump is not especially intelligent. His idea of competing with China is unrealistic. China is run in a different and more effective way. The US is probably on its last legs. It is over $40 trillion in debt. There is no coming back from that.

China does have artificial intelligence controls. It doesn't have to incur the costs of capitalism which include frequent bailouts, new deals, tax breaks, and infrastructure built at the behest of capitalist masters. Capitalism is a great idea if you live in an Adam Smith utopia, but it's never worked in practice without huge massive infusions of government money.

Trump also seems to not realize that in a war with China, they could fold up the US military in a couple of month because the US depends so much on products made in China.

AI is another way for the tech bros to get richer. It's not really intelligence, it is a tool. But not as impactful as it is built up to be.

Rich's avatar

China also has massive Debt and inflation

TheMover's avatar

We definitely don't need supranational regulation, which is only ever an excuse for local governments to impose highly unpopular measures. I agree with the pint made here: after 80 years the United Nations have long outlived their useful lifetime. We need to return to strong national identities that are capable of keeping each other in check.

https://www.wildhorsewisdom.xyz/p/we-horses-stand-united

Kevin Beck's avatar

If this is supposed to be some type of international competition for which nation reaches the final destination first, then why would we want to co-operate with China? Especially if we are already in the lead. At least, that's what everyone appears to be saying is the goal.

If that's not the goal, then those people need to say what IS the goal. And they need to be honest in their statements.

And along the way, they can explain why five AI models are the correct amount, if they are heading us toward regulatory capture. Or else, why we need five systems of libraries.

Thomas R Glosser's avatar

Maybe they should invest in “Dr. Strangelove 2: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love AI.” That’ll surely get everyone on board. ROFL! It’s very clear to me that if NVIDIA isn’t worried, then they’re all blowing smoke.

Rich's avatar

Can and will AI do good? Most likely. However, AI will also be used to drive nefarious agenda using propaganda and deep fakes. It will get so good it will be impossible to separate it from reality.

Can we stop it? NO

Can we regulate it? Maybe

Will it takes jobs? Definitely

I think caution is warranted.

This is the latest shiny ball to chase.. What will be next?

KW NORTON's avatar

Great post: While I observe a dumbing down of society, I experience, like a heavy friction, a buoyantly insistent rise of intelligence as well, as if these were twin forces, braided into one. New Editorials section: "When the Byline Overtakes the Byline." First broadside now up. https://theparallaxidentity.com/editorials

Jrod's avatar

As has been proposed by people smarter than I; if they’re really concerned just let everybody vet each others models. No regulation necessary. Like the motion picture assoc. Did with their rating system.

Lone Wolf's avatar

"Get bent, nerds"

LMS's avatar

these are the same people who did covid

HorizonD7's avatar

This alternate viewpoint from Ed Dowd might be of interest:

https://substack.com/home/post/p-215121582