One need only look at the damage wrought upon Black America’s values and economic wherewithal since the experiment in socialism that took off in the 1960s with LBJ and parentage from FDR.
No one seems to be asking what seems to me an obvious question: "If no one is working, where does the government get the revenue to issue these subsidy checks?" One answer might be that the government confiscates the means of production and distributes the companies' profits.... Oh, wait, that sounds familiar....
These brilliant nit wits who are creating AI are young people with no real knowledge of how the world works. Your comment that do not understand that their UBI is pure socialism proves the point. In my 83 years I’ve lived through an era of constant change. Every time something new comes along the luddites scream the same lies. Millions of people will be thrown out of work and find a job again. My personal favorite is the telephone operator. How many reading this recall the days of every call having to go through a live operator managing a huge switch board? Long distance calls had to be placed with the operator who would call back with your call. Then came area codes and direct dial. No more operators. Cries about lost jobs. I can go on with many other jobs. Bank tellers. Office secretaries. Typewriter. Gas station attendants. Etc etc. each change created unimaginable new technologies and opportunities. So will AI.
Regarding UBI, in the words of Fleet Admiral Gial Ackbar, the foremost military commander of the Rebel Alliance who led the attack against the second Death Star, "It's a Trap!!!!!!
UBI ties right into Digital ID, 15 minute cities aka concentration camps and every 1984 nightmare you can imagine.
Not a fan of UBI, as its original concept has been redefined to be simply money for no work. Such goes against human nature. Charles Murray proposed UBI decades ago as an *exchange* for all welfare payments. In that, the few countries that have experimentally implemented UBI failed and discontinued such efforts.
However, the aspect of AI not replacing significant numbers of workers seems preposterous. One needs only to ask oneself, “Then what is the purpose of AI?”. To claim that workers will “retrain” begs the question “In what fields?”. Not so long ago, the supercilious response from our duplicitous leadership to robotics was to “learn to program”. Silly on its face as it fails to take into account human differences in ability—not everyone can learn to program at such levels, and every robot that displaces a worker does not need a full-time programmer, or repair person (or why would they be installed).
I sense the same issues with AI, but even that is not my main worry. My main worry is that ubiquitous AI use will make the “incompetent” seem “competent”. More than once in my use of AI has the responses given been proved to be incomplete and sometimes simply wrong. As a programmer myself, the old adage “Garbage in, garbage out!” Comes to mind. Perhaps future AGI will be the answer, but for now I use AI for the few inquiries that I care about and never in fields which I have little grounding.
The idea of spending $4Tn/year to give everyone $1000/month is ridiculous - as if $1000/month will pay rent/mortgage in most markets, let alone everything else. It's even more ridiculous when you consider the nation is $36+ Tn in debt and climbing fast. And let's not kid ourselves - the amount of fraud that would accompany such a program will add to the rampant fraud already evident in all levels of government.
As an engineer who works in construction, I can see where AI *could* be disruptive. But I think there's a required human element that will be found if in no other area than liability. When a building leaks, or an AC unit fails because of poor installation and a million dollar batch of drugs is lost, suing "AI" for the mistake will not likely work. And I can't see contractors relying entirely on "AI" but assuming all of the liability for AI's mistakes.
Regardless, the thing is coming, and I completely agree that UBI is the worst idea imaginable. But I can see it happening if the left gains enough power.
One need only look at the damage wrought upon Black America’s values and economic wherewithal since the experiment in socialism that took off in the 1960s with LBJ and parentage from FDR.
No one seems to be asking what seems to me an obvious question: "If no one is working, where does the government get the revenue to issue these subsidy checks?" One answer might be that the government confiscates the means of production and distributes the companies' profits.... Oh, wait, that sounds familiar....
We already have UBI. It's called welfare. Works very well if you want to destroy society.
These brilliant nit wits who are creating AI are young people with no real knowledge of how the world works. Your comment that do not understand that their UBI is pure socialism proves the point. In my 83 years I’ve lived through an era of constant change. Every time something new comes along the luddites scream the same lies. Millions of people will be thrown out of work and find a job again. My personal favorite is the telephone operator. How many reading this recall the days of every call having to go through a live operator managing a huge switch board? Long distance calls had to be placed with the operator who would call back with your call. Then came area codes and direct dial. No more operators. Cries about lost jobs. I can go on with many other jobs. Bank tellers. Office secretaries. Typewriter. Gas station attendants. Etc etc. each change created unimaginable new technologies and opportunities. So will AI.
Regarding UBI, in the words of Fleet Admiral Gial Ackbar, the foremost military commander of the Rebel Alliance who led the attack against the second Death Star, "It's a Trap!!!!!!
UBI ties right into Digital ID, 15 minute cities aka concentration camps and every 1984 nightmare you can imagine.
UBI is the wrong answer to everything. People were pushing it before AI had entered the discussion. I remember George McGovern.
Might be time for civil non-compliance. Stop buying. Only essentials. don't pay bills, don't show up for work etc. Would get their attention for sure.
Not a fan of UBI, as its original concept has been redefined to be simply money for no work. Such goes against human nature. Charles Murray proposed UBI decades ago as an *exchange* for all welfare payments. In that, the few countries that have experimentally implemented UBI failed and discontinued such efforts.
However, the aspect of AI not replacing significant numbers of workers seems preposterous. One needs only to ask oneself, “Then what is the purpose of AI?”. To claim that workers will “retrain” begs the question “In what fields?”. Not so long ago, the supercilious response from our duplicitous leadership to robotics was to “learn to program”. Silly on its face as it fails to take into account human differences in ability—not everyone can learn to program at such levels, and every robot that displaces a worker does not need a full-time programmer, or repair person (or why would they be installed).
I sense the same issues with AI, but even that is not my main worry. My main worry is that ubiquitous AI use will make the “incompetent” seem “competent”. More than once in my use of AI has the responses given been proved to be incomplete and sometimes simply wrong. As a programmer myself, the old adage “Garbage in, garbage out!” Comes to mind. Perhaps future AGI will be the answer, but for now I use AI for the few inquiries that I care about and never in fields which I have little grounding.
The idea of spending $4Tn/year to give everyone $1000/month is ridiculous - as if $1000/month will pay rent/mortgage in most markets, let alone everything else. It's even more ridiculous when you consider the nation is $36+ Tn in debt and climbing fast. And let's not kid ourselves - the amount of fraud that would accompany such a program will add to the rampant fraud already evident in all levels of government.
As an engineer who works in construction, I can see where AI *could* be disruptive. But I think there's a required human element that will be found if in no other area than liability. When a building leaks, or an AC unit fails because of poor installation and a million dollar batch of drugs is lost, suing "AI" for the mistake will not likely work. And I can't see contractors relying entirely on "AI" but assuming all of the liability for AI's mistakes.
Regardless, the thing is coming, and I completely agree that UBI is the worst idea imaginable. But I can see it happening if the left gains enough power.