The Flu did not disappear, it was simply rebranded as Covid. With further commentary from the longtime lead scientist of the CDC's molecular diagnostic laboratory.
Jun 23, 2023·edited Jun 23, 2023Liked by Jordan Schachtel
Here's a piece I wrote from April 2020 that spoke to the "disappearance" of the flu. I was tracking this each day in real time knowing full well what they were doing.
You are 100% correct- they simply rebranded "the flu" (in and of itself a manufactured catch-all term) as they needed something new and more frightening, "an emergency", in order to justify the introduction of the mRNA injection gravy train and wipe out time consuming and costly trials.
Anthony Fauci stated, “So we really do have a problem of how the world perceives influenza and it’s going to be very difficult to change that unless you do it from within and say, I don’t care what your perception is, we’re going to address the problem in a disruptive and in an iterative way because she does need both.”
Responding to Fauci’s comment Rick Bright stated, “But it is not too crazy to think that an outbreak of a novel avian virus could occur in China somewhere. We could get the RNA sequence from that to a number of regional centers if not local, if not even in your home at some point, and print those vaccines on a patch of self-administer.”
With the disappearance of the flu and the emergence of Covid-19, both those problems were solved.
"As the story of COVID 19 unfolds and demands every ounce of our attention another unique health event, anomalous and perhaps connected goes ignored. An event unprecedented in at least the last 20 years since these things have been detailed by the CDC, coinciding with the C19 event, the CDC quietly informed any who were paying attention that the common flu- both scourge and money-maker – has been disappeared from the United States.
As the trend towards the usual gradual tapering began all of a sudden by Week 12 (March 21st) the ‘flu positive’ numbers dropped off a cliff. When one looks at the numbers from Week 10, 21.5%, to Week 12, 6.9%, we see an incredible drop off of 14.6% occurred. By Week 14 the ‘flu positives’ dropped to nearly non-existent – 0.8%. A quick glance to Week 9, 24.3%, and then down to Week 14’s all time record low of 0.8% shows a drop off of 23.5%.
It’s important to note that while the 22,324 tests done in Week 14 represent a significant drop in tests done compared to earlier weeks in 2020 those numbers still represented the 2nd highest overall Week 14 test numbers done in the history of the CDC. Yet only 0.8% ‘flu positives’ this season when the average for the preceding 7 years was 12.5% for Week 14. Even given the circumstances this is a statistical anomaly that begs many questions. To consider just a few:
Questions that demand answers:
How did such a terrible flu season suddenly disappear?
In what column have those ‘flu positives’ been placed?
What happened to all the other seasonal virii that afflict humans this time of the year? Where did they all go?
After a 20 year run the CDC has stated that Flu View, it’s flagship offering, will no longer be offering such meticulous reports as they shift their focus to Covid. It would seem that the CDC has decided after all these years the flu has finally run its course."
I didn’t see any links to the NIH, CDC, NEJM, or PubMed in your two-sentence reply, as Jordan did. I also didn’t see a link to your report of daily tracking of COVID infections, as done by Allen. Kinda makes me think you’re just pulling your “there is no covid” claim out of Uranus.
That's irrelevant.. when you look at the studies that first claimed that they found a virus and it made someone sick you find that the studies were not valid and did not prove what they claimed.. if you knew how to read the studies or have exposed yourself to the many experts who have analyzed these studies you would understand that ...
instead of using all these appeals to authority that are invalid logically
“When you look at the studies…” What studies? Preprints? Peer-reviewed journal articles? Still waiting for you to provide links to the “studies,” as Jordan did. Without valid backup from reputable sources, you’re just some keyboard warrior spouting off wacko conspiracy theories.
Yes Jordan is right in that it was rebranded ...my comments apply to those like Jordan's reference expert who said that viruses cause disease and I'm saying they do not. In addition The studies that I'm referring to are the initial COVID "discovery" studies claiming that there was a new virus causing a new disease . those studies are unscientific and invalid. Actually all of the other studies after that as well are invalid. They use improper procedures.
Ask Dr. Byram Bridle and other virologists -- or just ask doctors -- if there were noteworthy differences in the progression and treatment of Covid-19 compared to other respiratory infections or influenza strains they have observed.
Of course there were differences!
I suppose you could claim that Covid is just some outlying cousin of influenza (since the term is very imprecise), but that's like calling pneumonia a common cold.
Most people get over "The flu" in a few days; it wasn't uncommon for Alpha and Delta Covid strains to to put even healthy people in bed for a week or more, and require an equal amount of time for full recovery.
Nice try in changing the subject. You covidiots never give up. Nobody is saying that covid is the same as the flu. What they are saying, backed up by science and real world data, is that the symptoms of the flu and covid are very similar, and that due to the highly inaccurate PCRs and the financial incentives to boost covid stats, flu was being misdiagnosed as covid. Those are facts, which I know that people like you find inconvenient, but they are facts nonetheless.
I didn't change any subject. Learn to read before making blatantly erroneous statements. Some people in this forum (and many others) repeatedly and explicity claim that "There is no Covid" and "It was all flu" -- i.e. Covid doesn't exist.
Allen, above, (and in many other substacks), spinning his narrative, and pinned by Jordan, no less: "...they simply rebranded "the flu".
Near the top of of the comments: "Covid-19 is pure fiction."
Bob and Anna Woods: "I'm one of the millions out there who are convinced Covid is just the flu."
Rational minds will reach the conclusion you presented in the second part of your statement, but if you think there are not large (and obnoxiously vocal) numbers of people who completely deny the existence of Covid-19, you haven't been reading the substacks.
Proof is in the eye of the beholder. If you've never had Covid, you're in no position to preach. Koch's postulates are theoretical; and the fulfillment of them can always be debated. People try to make good assesments of what's happening around them, but they often miss things. I suggest your puzzle is missing a few pieces. For better or worse, I have direct, first-hand experience, otherwise I might be making the same claim you are.
What we call the sky is visible to us what you're calling covid is a supposed virus causing an illness totally different things I guess you don't know much about science do you Don. Being sick has nothing to do with knowing whether covid exists or not. Kochs postulates are a simple logical framework that has never been satisfied. You're a good example of why so many people fell for this nonsense. So you were sick therefore a virus made you sick that's your claim?
Allen was way ahead of the curve in April 2020--and not the mythical one that was supposed to flatten in 2 weeks. Please list any articles or blog guest columns you posted at the time and we'll see who was more accurate.
Being wrong before everyone else is no credit. Allen's proposition was, and is, excessive -- throwing out the baby with the bath water. Viral suppression/interfence is quite real, and should be carefully examined before drawing conclusions.
If you're looking for articles, try this new one, written in response to the easily swayed masses:
Most normal people who make comments about an article, actually comment about the article. Jordan’s article did not say that covid was the same as the flu, so in attacking your subject-changing comment, I was defending the actual content of the article. If you want to ignore the contents of an article, and instead comment about comments which have no relationship to the article in question, perhaps you should find a substack entitled “Comments” for your nonsense.
People comment on other's comments all the time. You didn't flag Allen down for presenting something off-topic, but chose me instead -- so you are not even consistent with your own logic. There's no sense in belaboring this, and I'm not about to conform to your expectations.
I was only hoping you would conform to common sense, but clearly that is not going to happen. Sadly, common sense has become very uncommon, particularly among covidiots like you.
Worst in a decade. Oh, and ain't it just a "funny" thing that that animated thingee in the beginning that I guess we're supposed to interpret as the influenza "virus" looks just like the "novel" coronavirus, SARS-CoV2, that was supposed to kill everybody. While the flu just made its very quiet exit...
100% I used to work in a lab at a university as an assistant (I was not a science major it was just a job to me) and part of my duties were processing samples of plant diseases by growing them on plates, grinding them up, extracting a dna sample, then running a PCR test. The number 1 rule the scientists told me was **DO NOT LET THE PCR TEST RUN LONGER THAN INSTRUCTED** the reasoning? even your negative control would show positive after enough cycles. When I first heard they were using PCR testing to confirm covid infections i knew something smelled. And i only understood those processes in layman terms
Also, "cases" is an invented term. Not synonymous with "infection." Presence alone of viral DNA matter, fragments, shards, skeletal, isn't proof of infection for the reasons given. And because infection is a multi-part test, which *must* include evidence of replication, presence alone is non-determinative.
Which is why some Scandinavian nations employed a two-test regimen to detect replication. PCR tests taken 6-8 hours apart. If one detects presence at different amplification levels than the other then you can infer amplification if the second one detects presence at lower magnification. It was a simple, more accurate measure, though still imperfect, of infection. But that didn't produce the results that authorities seeking justification for control wanted.
No, the flu didn't disappear, the tests were a farce and phony, and so was the pandemic and justification to shut down the world. Destroying what was in order to "build back better" was the real intention of the pandemania.
Ahhh, grasshopper, you do not pay attention to my words. Which are precise. And in their precision accommodate both terrain and germ theories. Making them relevant.
I *choose* not to have that debate in this context. My words are precise. And accommodate your understanding. And other understandings. Specifically chosen to make the point I make without engaging other debates that distract in this context.
You're being obtuse . there's no infection . PCR is meaningless. Yes the flu "disappeared" in the sense that it was simply renamed COVID as the person rightly said. The only thing distracting is not going to the heart of the matter which is what you are doing
PCR measures something. From that something can other things be inferred. Whether or not they are causal or results of is the debate. That I choose not to engage. Lest that distract from my message. But they measure something. They measure dinosaur DNA in fossils. That's something. What that means is different to different observers.
You fight your fight. It is a worthy discussion that more should engage. I fight my fight. That accommodates your understanding, and the understandings of others. Context matters.
Agree with this article, but I'm sorry to report that the situation is even dumber than you've outlined.
Firstly, the word "flu" is just an English-language short form of the word "influenza" which is Italian and literally means "influence", and is itself a shorter version of the term "influenza dalle stelle" which means "influence of the stars." Yep. That's because MEDIEVAL doctors thought a (malign) influence of the stars caused people to get a runny nose, deep cough, etc.
Secondly, in the modern world, there is no such disease as "flu" (or even influenza). Instead, it is officially called an "ILI" or an "influenza-like illness." Why? Because literally nobody knows what causes "it" or what "it" even is, other than a grab-bag of symptoms (runny nose, headache, fever, etc.). Maybe it's caused by a virus, maybe it's multiple viruses, or maybe it's something else (like air pollution).
Essentially, if the symptoms are mild, it's called a "cold" in regular English, and if it's a bit more potent, it's called the "flu," but the CDC and others lump them all together under the heading "ILI."
Furthermore, as Dr. Pieniazek correctly noted, your nasal passages are literally an air filter, which means they're full of all kinds of random crap that was floating in the air, including dust and pollution. Finding out what's in your nose is (largely) irrelevant because it doesn't mean that any of that stuff got INTO your body. Indeed, if it's in the mucus inside your nose, it literally means that it DIDN'T get into your body.
The (Western) medical practice has always hated ILI precisely because there's no known precise etiology (cause) and no way to make a profit from curing it. Only those ridiculously ineffective "flu vaccines" make any profit. People do get sick, of course, from ILI, but it's only the companies selling OTC "remedies" that make any money.
Generally speaking, a non-elderly person will get ILI and recover at home, perhaps by just drinking fluids and resting, or perhaps by taking a few OTC bits and bobs. The elderly, however, often get hospitalized when they get ILI, and it usually just means that they're approaching the end of their lives and experiencing a general breakdown in health, rather than being the "victim" of some unknown microscopic pathogen.
Covid-19, on the other hand, started out as a SEVERE and ACUTE RESPIRATORY illness (hence the SARS in its name) which meant that patients rapidly developed severe breathing problems (i.e. went from "fine" to "oh shit" in 24 hours or less), which is where all the early discussion on ventilators came in. However, within just a few weeks, that magically disappeared, to be replaced by an illness that was identical to the flu/a cold (ILI).
In other words, if you weren't hospitalized for severe breathing problems, you didn't have the "real" Covid-19 disease. Everything else is and was just the flu (ILI), rebranded.
Great comment. "SEVERE and ACUTE RESPIRATORY illness". How easy to forget that when you use the acronym over and over again. In no time at all you are able to say "you may have a SEVERE and ACUTE RESPIRATORY illness and not even know it." and not be laughed at.
No. You overstepped your premise with your last paragraph. Many people (myself included) had breathing problems, and almost certainly had Covid, but were not hospitalized. Hospitalization is NOT a qualification for having Covid.
Thanks for the "influence" reference, someone pointed that out to me the other day...your explanation makes that clearer.
Note the CDC changed the defiinition of Influenza Like Illness in 2021!
" Effective October 3, 2021 (week 40), the ILI definition (fever plus cough or sore throat) no longer includes “without a known cause other than influenza.” see under graph "Outpatient Respiratory Illness Visits"
For me it's so easy. Symptoms of a cold or flu are my body's methods for doing repairs and toxin unloading. I very seldom interfere with this process. Whenever your bodily systems are out of whack, your body will attempt to repair itself. If things get too far off kilter, the result is often a more serious illness or disease. You catch nothing as far as viruses go, but may come into contact with destructive toxins.
Not just the flu, my friend. MRSA also took a holiday. But I had the misfortune to be in the hospital at the onset of the hoax (Jan 30 2020) and so know that the hospital was in on the joke. They did not test for MRSA as they always had done, and my beautiful nurse whom I called Gay Dave was wearing a face mask! 3 days before the announcement of "Covid!" Go figure. (I was there for a burst artery in a bicep, of all things).
That was our experience, too, in a Feb2020 trip to the ER at the local hospital with one haughty young female ER doctor. She was wearing a mask, the only one who was, and she insisted that my husband who had severe vertigo be tested for this new whatever. Otherwise she would not take her mask off. Really?? I had no idea how they had a test already, but consent was given to do a nasal swab. We never saw this beeetch again, and they never could figure out what was wrong. We saw later on the electronic medical record that the swab test was just for the routine Flu A & B. Came back negative because the hospital wasn't getting its Covid Bonus $$$ yet to ramp that baby up to 40!
Normally I would get tired of certain subjects, but this is not one of them. Many of us knew the whole thing was a scam when the ruling class pivoted away from hundreds of years of virology.
Please keep posting articles like this for ever, eventually the true believers must see the destruction they have wrought and pay a price.
I think (but am not certain) that the cases of flu were combined into the Chinese flu cases during the period in question. The best supporting evidence I have is that hospitals were paid extra for cases of Chinese flu during the pandemic.
"With the arrival of the Wuhan virus in January 2020, all lessons of prior seasons were forgotten."
Reminded me of a little extract from a Chris Martenson clip over on Peak Prosperity. Long ago. He looked at the odds that every die roll was not just wrong but literally inverted from precedent, best practice, common sense, etc.
Literally astronomical odds that the Plandemonium happened the way it did by accident. As if that was not apparent by now.
An evil creative hand shaped events.
The Monster.
It did a lot of killing in order to usher in the global democide (by injection). Literal murder, to drive fear, to discredit treatments. Murders that will never be reckoned.
If there is any question about the scale of evil in their hearts - and their malice towards us all - then simply look at the 'C19' deaths and know all but a tiny % were avoidable.
They took millions of lives, in order to allow them to take billions.
That is what we face.
That is why there is no kumbaya fairy tale ending.
Sic Semper Tyrannis.
We can't make peace with evil; and we'd be fools to try.
So did they engineer a new strain of flu? Re-engineer an old strain of flu with gain of function? "Just the flu" or not, we still need to get to the bottom of Wuhan/Darpa/NIH/WHO and Pharma's mRNA delivery system each had in the orchestration of this flu and hold them responsible?
If they used GoF, then from SARS CoV-1 to SARS CoV-2, about 16 years, it was a complete failure since CoV-2 wasn't very deadly except in extreme cases.
Since 2020, I have (facetiously) maintained that influenza, in that year, went to "Virus Obedience School"--where it learned to take a back seat to other, more deserving, diseases. My joke appears to have been on the mark?
I'm one of the millions out there who are convinced covid is just the flu; one of the things this article talked about is the "swab"...swabs were one of the tools the health system(s) used to spread fear and legitimacy to their plan... 1/2
...just like masks, mask mandates, and various methods governments used to coerce people into getting the jab (HSchoolers couldn't go to the graduation ceremony, family businesses were shuttered, business licenses wouldn't get renewed, etc.) 2/2
Neurobiologist Jonathan Couey has been on this since last fall, focusing on the biology and the implausibility of a novel virus circling the globe in record time. His streams are compelling and he's a passionate teacher. Check out one of his more recent ones on the topic of infectious clones. https://gigaohmbiological.com
Whether the Flu disappeared or not is irrelevant and a diversion from this whole Scamarama justifying the Lockdown of our country and many other duped countries around the world. Fearmongering Fauci looked into the camera in Feb2020, and point blank said: This is a novel virus called SARS/Covid19 that causes LETHAL PNEUMONIA in otherwise healthy people. You will have NO IMMUNITY [because this Cootie comes from Wuhan and not Taiwan like the SARS2003 BS]. Plus, the ONLY treatment we're going to allow is the same one that killed off all those people in the SARS2003 epidemic: Ventilators and toxic anti-virals (and now the C-Jabs). So, now the Govt. wants babies and children and everyone else to be jabbed multiple times due to all these "coronavirus" variants that hurt no one like the Covid Treatment Protocol. In fact the deaths of two more toddlers were reported to VAERS in the June update. Add to all that, there is no APPROVED VACCINE, just authorized crap, and there is still ZERO APPROVED TESTS and never will be. Doesn't matter because Covid Cases can still be presumed by that weak list of symptoms or "confirmed" with the bogus PCR test ramped up to False Positive for any coronavirus. There are other things that can cause Pneumonia besides a virus especially in a highly polluted cities like Wuhan, and NYC and Detroit. There was serious Medical Murder in our country that killed off about 1.6 million more people that "expected" during 2020-to date. The Covid Coded Deaths accounted for 1 million and we'll never know from what they really died. The other 600,000 [corrected] deaths were predominantly among younger people, all provable using the CDC's own mortality data.
And I also add St Phauci recommended Remdesivir as an authorized treatment when he had already shown that it destroyed kidney function in HIV patients 40 years prior. It was all a shit show by our “trusted experts”
I didn't name the "toxic anti-virals" but you are absolutely correct about the horrible Remdesivir that is on the WHO/CDC Covid Treatment Protocol. Fauci's Foul Plays should be Legend, but he is protected from any true scrutiny. If you read the CDC's HIV Case definition, Testing, Contact Tracing, Surveillance, etc., it's the Covid PLaybook, too. A close friend of mine had to be hospitalized at 9 months pregnant. She had an intractable cough with a cold. She went to the ER to get something to calm down her coughing, but she tested positive, so off to the High Risk Maternity hospital and into the ICU. Parked in a bed, things only got worse. She got the Remdesivir and it took a long time to get rid of the fluid build up. Fortunately, she got her o-2 level up by doing her deep breathing and they let her go. She and the baby are fine, thank God. There's no more trust for any of them.
Thank God her they both came thru fine. Hopefully, one day all those in power who contributed to this Covid medical and authoritative malpractice will suffer their just consequences
Here's a piece I wrote from April 2020 that spoke to the "disappearance" of the flu. I was tracking this each day in real time knowing full well what they were doing.
You are 100% correct- they simply rebranded "the flu" (in and of itself a manufactured catch-all term) as they needed something new and more frightening, "an emergency", in order to justify the introduction of the mRNA injection gravy train and wipe out time consuming and costly trials.
Anthony Fauci stated, “So we really do have a problem of how the world perceives influenza and it’s going to be very difficult to change that unless you do it from within and say, I don’t care what your perception is, we’re going to address the problem in a disruptive and in an iterative way because she does need both.”
Responding to Fauci’s comment Rick Bright stated, “But it is not too crazy to think that an outbreak of a novel avian virus could occur in China somewhere. We could get the RNA sequence from that to a number of regional centers if not local, if not even in your home at some point, and print those vaccines on a patch of self-administer.”
With the disappearance of the flu and the emergence of Covid-19, both those problems were solved.
Article here:
Where has the Regular Flu Gone?
https://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2020/04/29/against-the-corona-panic-pt-vi-where-has-the-regular-flu-gone-the-cdc-reports-unprecedented-crash-in-non-covid-flu-positives-raising-questions/
Quote:
"As the story of COVID 19 unfolds and demands every ounce of our attention another unique health event, anomalous and perhaps connected goes ignored. An event unprecedented in at least the last 20 years since these things have been detailed by the CDC, coinciding with the C19 event, the CDC quietly informed any who were paying attention that the common flu- both scourge and money-maker – has been disappeared from the United States.
As the trend towards the usual gradual tapering began all of a sudden by Week 12 (March 21st) the ‘flu positive’ numbers dropped off a cliff. When one looks at the numbers from Week 10, 21.5%, to Week 12, 6.9%, we see an incredible drop off of 14.6% occurred. By Week 14 the ‘flu positives’ dropped to nearly non-existent – 0.8%. A quick glance to Week 9, 24.3%, and then down to Week 14’s all time record low of 0.8% shows a drop off of 23.5%.
It’s important to note that while the 22,324 tests done in Week 14 represent a significant drop in tests done compared to earlier weeks in 2020 those numbers still represented the 2nd highest overall Week 14 test numbers done in the history of the CDC. Yet only 0.8% ‘flu positives’ this season when the average for the preceding 7 years was 12.5% for Week 14. Even given the circumstances this is a statistical anomaly that begs many questions. To consider just a few:
Questions that demand answers:
How did such a terrible flu season suddenly disappear?
In what column have those ‘flu positives’ been placed?
What happened to all the other seasonal virii that afflict humans this time of the year? Where did they all go?
After a 20 year run the CDC has stated that Flu View, it’s flagship offering, will no longer be offering such meticulous reports as they shift their focus to Covid. It would seem that the CDC has decided after all these years the flu has finally run its course."
Thanks for sharing, Allen
You're in the wrong paradigm Jordan. Germ theory is false there is no covid we don't get infected by viruses the cause and effect is reversed
I didn’t see any links to the NIH, CDC, NEJM, or PubMed in your two-sentence reply, as Jordan did. I also didn’t see a link to your report of daily tracking of COVID infections, as done by Allen. Kinda makes me think you’re just pulling your “there is no covid” claim out of Uranus.
That's irrelevant.. when you look at the studies that first claimed that they found a virus and it made someone sick you find that the studies were not valid and did not prove what they claimed.. if you knew how to read the studies or have exposed yourself to the many experts who have analyzed these studies you would understand that ...
instead of using all these appeals to authority that are invalid logically
“When you look at the studies…” What studies? Preprints? Peer-reviewed journal articles? Still waiting for you to provide links to the “studies,” as Jordan did. Without valid backup from reputable sources, you’re just some keyboard warrior spouting off wacko conspiracy theories.
Yes Jordan is right in that it was rebranded ...my comments apply to those like Jordan's reference expert who said that viruses cause disease and I'm saying they do not. In addition The studies that I'm referring to are the initial COVID "discovery" studies claiming that there was a new virus causing a new disease . those studies are unscientific and invalid. Actually all of the other studies after that as well are invalid. They use improper procedures.
No way.
Ask Dr. Byram Bridle and other virologists -- or just ask doctors -- if there were noteworthy differences in the progression and treatment of Covid-19 compared to other respiratory infections or influenza strains they have observed.
Of course there were differences!
I suppose you could claim that Covid is just some outlying cousin of influenza (since the term is very imprecise), but that's like calling pneumonia a common cold.
Most people get over "The flu" in a few days; it wasn't uncommon for Alpha and Delta Covid strains to to put even healthy people in bed for a week or more, and require an equal amount of time for full recovery.
Covid is NOT the same as ordinary influenza.
Nice try in changing the subject. You covidiots never give up. Nobody is saying that covid is the same as the flu. What they are saying, backed up by science and real world data, is that the symptoms of the flu and covid are very similar, and that due to the highly inaccurate PCRs and the financial incentives to boost covid stats, flu was being misdiagnosed as covid. Those are facts, which I know that people like you find inconvenient, but they are facts nonetheless.
I didn't change any subject. Learn to read before making blatantly erroneous statements. Some people in this forum (and many others) repeatedly and explicity claim that "There is no Covid" and "It was all flu" -- i.e. Covid doesn't exist.
Allen, above, (and in many other substacks), spinning his narrative, and pinned by Jordan, no less: "...they simply rebranded "the flu".
Near the top of of the comments: "Covid-19 is pure fiction."
Bob and Anna Woods: "I'm one of the millions out there who are convinced Covid is just the flu."
Rational minds will reach the conclusion you presented in the second part of your statement, but if you think there are not large (and obnoxiously vocal) numbers of people who completely deny the existence of Covid-19, you haven't been reading the substacks.
Get off my back.
You're wrong. There's no COVID. Try to prove there is
There's no sky, either; try to prove there is.
Proof is in the eye of the beholder. If you've never had Covid, you're in no position to preach. Koch's postulates are theoretical; and the fulfillment of them can always be debated. People try to make good assesments of what's happening around them, but they often miss things. I suggest your puzzle is missing a few pieces. For better or worse, I have direct, first-hand experience, otherwise I might be making the same claim you are.
What we call the sky is visible to us what you're calling covid is a supposed virus causing an illness totally different things I guess you don't know much about science do you Don. Being sick has nothing to do with knowing whether covid exists or not. Kochs postulates are a simple logical framework that has never been satisfied. You're a good example of why so many people fell for this nonsense. So you were sick therefore a virus made you sick that's your claim?
Another spectacular piece of reasoning pulled out of Uranus.
Oh I see you're one of those people that has nothing to say except baseless insults.
Drsambailey.com
Learn something. You won't. You're too stubborn.
Wow... and millions didn't die.
Why did they die
Allen was way ahead of the curve in April 2020--and not the mythical one that was supposed to flatten in 2 weeks. Please list any articles or blog guest columns you posted at the time and we'll see who was more accurate.
Being wrong before everyone else is no credit. Allen's proposition was, and is, excessive -- throwing out the baby with the bath water. Viral suppression/interfence is quite real, and should be carefully examined before drawing conclusions.
If you're looking for articles, try this new one, written in response to the easily swayed masses:
https://substack.com/app-link/post?publication_id=268621&post_id=131635850
it is the flu. covid 19 doesn't have the same symptoms as the flu. it is the flu but called covid so democrats could mail in fake votes
Most normal people who make comments about an article, actually comment about the article. Jordan’s article did not say that covid was the same as the flu, so in attacking your subject-changing comment, I was defending the actual content of the article. If you want to ignore the contents of an article, and instead comment about comments which have no relationship to the article in question, perhaps you should find a substack entitled “Comments” for your nonsense.
People comment on other's comments all the time. You didn't flag Allen down for presenting something off-topic, but chose me instead -- so you are not even consistent with your own logic. There's no sense in belaboring this, and I'm not about to conform to your expectations.
I was only hoping you would conform to common sense, but clearly that is not going to happen. Sadly, common sense has become very uncommon, particularly among covidiots like you.
And this from Jan 2020, be afraid, everybody...of this season's flu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-o9V3jkjhg Under a minute.
Worst in a decade. Oh, and ain't it just a "funny" thing that that animated thingee in the beginning that I guess we're supposed to interpret as the influenza "virus" looks just like the "novel" coronavirus, SARS-CoV2, that was supposed to kill everybody. While the flu just made its very quiet exit...
PCR scam added to the amped up fearporn.
100% I used to work in a lab at a university as an assistant (I was not a science major it was just a job to me) and part of my duties were processing samples of plant diseases by growing them on plates, grinding them up, extracting a dna sample, then running a PCR test. The number 1 rule the scientists told me was **DO NOT LET THE PCR TEST RUN LONGER THAN INSTRUCTED** the reasoning? even your negative control would show positive after enough cycles. When I first heard they were using PCR testing to confirm covid infections i knew something smelled. And i only understood those processes in layman terms
Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!
Also, "cases" is an invented term. Not synonymous with "infection." Presence alone of viral DNA matter, fragments, shards, skeletal, isn't proof of infection for the reasons given. And because infection is a multi-part test, which *must* include evidence of replication, presence alone is non-determinative.
Which is why some Scandinavian nations employed a two-test regimen to detect replication. PCR tests taken 6-8 hours apart. If one detects presence at different amplification levels than the other then you can infer amplification if the second one detects presence at lower magnification. It was a simple, more accurate measure, though still imperfect, of infection. But that didn't produce the results that authorities seeking justification for control wanted.
No, the flu didn't disappear, the tests were a farce and phony, and so was the pandemic and justification to shut down the world. Destroying what was in order to "build back better" was the real intention of the pandemania.
All of that is irrelevant since germ theory is false
Ahhh, grasshopper, you do not pay attention to my words. Which are precise. And in their precision accommodate both terrain and germ theories. Making them relevant.
Germ theory has been disproven multiple times
I *choose* not to have that debate in this context. My words are precise. And accommodate your understanding. And other understandings. Specifically chosen to make the point I make without engaging other debates that distract in this context.
You're being obtuse . there's no infection . PCR is meaningless. Yes the flu "disappeared" in the sense that it was simply renamed COVID as the person rightly said. The only thing distracting is not going to the heart of the matter which is what you are doing
PCR measures something. From that something can other things be inferred. Whether or not they are causal or results of is the debate. That I choose not to engage. Lest that distract from my message. But they measure something. They measure dinosaur DNA in fossils. That's something. What that means is different to different observers.
You fight your fight. It is a worthy discussion that more should engage. I fight my fight. That accommodates your understanding, and the understandings of others. Context matters.
Agree with this article, but I'm sorry to report that the situation is even dumber than you've outlined.
Firstly, the word "flu" is just an English-language short form of the word "influenza" which is Italian and literally means "influence", and is itself a shorter version of the term "influenza dalle stelle" which means "influence of the stars." Yep. That's because MEDIEVAL doctors thought a (malign) influence of the stars caused people to get a runny nose, deep cough, etc.
Secondly, in the modern world, there is no such disease as "flu" (or even influenza). Instead, it is officially called an "ILI" or an "influenza-like illness." Why? Because literally nobody knows what causes "it" or what "it" even is, other than a grab-bag of symptoms (runny nose, headache, fever, etc.). Maybe it's caused by a virus, maybe it's multiple viruses, or maybe it's something else (like air pollution).
Essentially, if the symptoms are mild, it's called a "cold" in regular English, and if it's a bit more potent, it's called the "flu," but the CDC and others lump them all together under the heading "ILI."
Furthermore, as Dr. Pieniazek correctly noted, your nasal passages are literally an air filter, which means they're full of all kinds of random crap that was floating in the air, including dust and pollution. Finding out what's in your nose is (largely) irrelevant because it doesn't mean that any of that stuff got INTO your body. Indeed, if it's in the mucus inside your nose, it literally means that it DIDN'T get into your body.
The (Western) medical practice has always hated ILI precisely because there's no known precise etiology (cause) and no way to make a profit from curing it. Only those ridiculously ineffective "flu vaccines" make any profit. People do get sick, of course, from ILI, but it's only the companies selling OTC "remedies" that make any money.
Generally speaking, a non-elderly person will get ILI and recover at home, perhaps by just drinking fluids and resting, or perhaps by taking a few OTC bits and bobs. The elderly, however, often get hospitalized when they get ILI, and it usually just means that they're approaching the end of their lives and experiencing a general breakdown in health, rather than being the "victim" of some unknown microscopic pathogen.
Covid-19, on the other hand, started out as a SEVERE and ACUTE RESPIRATORY illness (hence the SARS in its name) which meant that patients rapidly developed severe breathing problems (i.e. went from "fine" to "oh shit" in 24 hours or less), which is where all the early discussion on ventilators came in. However, within just a few weeks, that magically disappeared, to be replaced by an illness that was identical to the flu/a cold (ILI).
In other words, if you weren't hospitalized for severe breathing problems, you didn't have the "real" Covid-19 disease. Everything else is and was just the flu (ILI), rebranded.
Thank you for insight, Sam
Great comment. "SEVERE and ACUTE RESPIRATORY illness". How easy to forget that when you use the acronym over and over again. In no time at all you are able to say "you may have a SEVERE and ACUTE RESPIRATORY illness and not even know it." and not be laughed at.
What do you mean nobody knows what causes it many people know what causes it it's just a cleansing reaction.
No. You overstepped your premise with your last paragraph. Many people (myself included) had breathing problems, and almost certainly had Covid, but were not hospitalized. Hospitalization is NOT a qualification for having Covid.
Thanks for the "influence" reference, someone pointed that out to me the other day...your explanation makes that clearer.
Note the CDC changed the defiinition of Influenza Like Illness in 2021!
" Effective October 3, 2021 (week 40), the ILI definition (fever plus cough or sore throat) no longer includes “without a known cause other than influenza.” see under graph "Outpatient Respiratory Illness Visits"
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/
And Feb 2023 they're changing the classification "taxonomy" of influenza.
https://ncbiinsights.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2023/02/21/influenza-virus-ncbi-taxonomy/
More goal post changes and confusion! It's hard to keep up.
Bone broth chicken noodle soup and rest works for me!
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The Vaccinated Have Been PUNKED
For Believing
The Unbelievable.
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For me it's so easy. Symptoms of a cold or flu are my body's methods for doing repairs and toxin unloading. I very seldom interfere with this process. Whenever your bodily systems are out of whack, your body will attempt to repair itself. If things get too far off kilter, the result is often a more serious illness or disease. You catch nothing as far as viruses go, but may come into contact with destructive toxins.
Finally someone who gets it and not one response to you people love their germ theory
Not just the flu, my friend. MRSA also took a holiday. But I had the misfortune to be in the hospital at the onset of the hoax (Jan 30 2020) and so know that the hospital was in on the joke. They did not test for MRSA as they always had done, and my beautiful nurse whom I called Gay Dave was wearing a face mask! 3 days before the announcement of "Covid!" Go figure. (I was there for a burst artery in a bicep, of all things).
That was our experience, too, in a Feb2020 trip to the ER at the local hospital with one haughty young female ER doctor. She was wearing a mask, the only one who was, and she insisted that my husband who had severe vertigo be tested for this new whatever. Otherwise she would not take her mask off. Really?? I had no idea how they had a test already, but consent was given to do a nasal swab. We never saw this beeetch again, and they never could figure out what was wrong. We saw later on the electronic medical record that the swab test was just for the routine Flu A & B. Came back negative because the hospital wasn't getting its Covid Bonus $$$ yet to ramp that baby up to 40!
Normally I would get tired of certain subjects, but this is not one of them. Many of us knew the whole thing was a scam when the ruling class pivoted away from hundreds of years of virology.
Please keep posting articles like this for ever, eventually the true believers must see the destruction they have wrought and pay a price.
I think (but am not certain) that the cases of flu were combined into the Chinese flu cases during the period in question. The best supporting evidence I have is that hospitals were paid extra for cases of Chinese flu during the pandemic.
Great dissection, Jordan. As ever.
Your line;
"With the arrival of the Wuhan virus in January 2020, all lessons of prior seasons were forgotten."
Reminded me of a little extract from a Chris Martenson clip over on Peak Prosperity. Long ago. He looked at the odds that every die roll was not just wrong but literally inverted from precedent, best practice, common sense, etc.
Literally astronomical odds that the Plandemonium happened the way it did by accident. As if that was not apparent by now.
An evil creative hand shaped events.
The Monster.
It did a lot of killing in order to usher in the global democide (by injection). Literal murder, to drive fear, to discredit treatments. Murders that will never be reckoned.
If there is any question about the scale of evil in their hearts - and their malice towards us all - then simply look at the 'C19' deaths and know all but a tiny % were avoidable.
They took millions of lives, in order to allow them to take billions.
That is what we face.
That is why there is no kumbaya fairy tale ending.
Sic Semper Tyrannis.
We can't make peace with evil; and we'd be fools to try.
Peace.
So did they engineer a new strain of flu? Re-engineer an old strain of flu with gain of function? "Just the flu" or not, we still need to get to the bottom of Wuhan/Darpa/NIH/WHO and Pharma's mRNA delivery system each had in the orchestration of this flu and hold them responsible?
Careful. Someone might think you are a racist for speaking like this.
If they used GoF, then from SARS CoV-1 to SARS CoV-2, about 16 years, it was a complete failure since CoV-2 wasn't very deadly except in extreme cases.
Since 2020, I have (facetiously) maintained that influenza, in that year, went to "Virus Obedience School"--where it learned to take a back seat to other, more deserving, diseases. My joke appears to have been on the mark?
I'm one of the millions out there who are convinced covid is just the flu; one of the things this article talked about is the "swab"...swabs were one of the tools the health system(s) used to spread fear and legitimacy to their plan... 1/2
...just like masks, mask mandates, and various methods governments used to coerce people into getting the jab (HSchoolers couldn't go to the graduation ceremony, family businesses were shuttered, business licenses wouldn't get renewed, etc.) 2/2
Have you personally experienced the alpha strain or delta? I think you would have a different opinion if you did.
Neurobiologist Jonathan Couey has been on this since last fall, focusing on the biology and the implausibility of a novel virus circling the globe in record time. His streams are compelling and he's a passionate teacher. Check out one of his more recent ones on the topic of infectious clones. https://gigaohmbiological.com
Everything and anything under the sun got rebranded. Including bullet holes.
The flu (as a viral disease) is another made up thing too, incidentally. Just has a lot more tradition behind it.
All of us were rebranded from citizens to slaves.
Oh yeah. They removed the stage and left the real world visible.
not quite right. The delusional "Citizen" labels were merely ripped off to reveal the true mark of our slavery.
Whether the Flu disappeared or not is irrelevant and a diversion from this whole Scamarama justifying the Lockdown of our country and many other duped countries around the world. Fearmongering Fauci looked into the camera in Feb2020, and point blank said: This is a novel virus called SARS/Covid19 that causes LETHAL PNEUMONIA in otherwise healthy people. You will have NO IMMUNITY [because this Cootie comes from Wuhan and not Taiwan like the SARS2003 BS]. Plus, the ONLY treatment we're going to allow is the same one that killed off all those people in the SARS2003 epidemic: Ventilators and toxic anti-virals (and now the C-Jabs). So, now the Govt. wants babies and children and everyone else to be jabbed multiple times due to all these "coronavirus" variants that hurt no one like the Covid Treatment Protocol. In fact the deaths of two more toddlers were reported to VAERS in the June update. Add to all that, there is no APPROVED VACCINE, just authorized crap, and there is still ZERO APPROVED TESTS and never will be. Doesn't matter because Covid Cases can still be presumed by that weak list of symptoms or "confirmed" with the bogus PCR test ramped up to False Positive for any coronavirus. There are other things that can cause Pneumonia besides a virus especially in a highly polluted cities like Wuhan, and NYC and Detroit. There was serious Medical Murder in our country that killed off about 1.6 million more people that "expected" during 2020-to date. The Covid Coded Deaths accounted for 1 million and we'll never know from what they really died. The other 600,000 [corrected] deaths were predominantly among younger people, all provable using the CDC's own mortality data.
And I also add St Phauci recommended Remdesivir as an authorized treatment when he had already shown that it destroyed kidney function in HIV patients 40 years prior. It was all a shit show by our “trusted experts”
I didn't name the "toxic anti-virals" but you are absolutely correct about the horrible Remdesivir that is on the WHO/CDC Covid Treatment Protocol. Fauci's Foul Plays should be Legend, but he is protected from any true scrutiny. If you read the CDC's HIV Case definition, Testing, Contact Tracing, Surveillance, etc., it's the Covid PLaybook, too. A close friend of mine had to be hospitalized at 9 months pregnant. She had an intractable cough with a cold. She went to the ER to get something to calm down her coughing, but she tested positive, so off to the High Risk Maternity hospital and into the ICU. Parked in a bed, things only got worse. She got the Remdesivir and it took a long time to get rid of the fluid build up. Fortunately, she got her o-2 level up by doing her deep breathing and they let her go. She and the baby are fine, thank God. There's no more trust for any of them.
Thank God her they both came thru fine. Hopefully, one day all those in power who contributed to this Covid medical and authoritative malpractice will suffer their just consequences