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At this point, anyone who believes anything Fraudci says is a complete idiot or a progressive. But I repeat myself.

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As for defining "Idiot," you seem to have revealed your idiocy with your Commentary. And, yes...you do repeat yourself. Your idiocy is revealed every time you share your conspiratorial thinking. You prefer to believe lies from failing conmen like "Trust the Plan" and believe in things like Qanon, which has actually revealed to be a former Gay Porn site owner living in the Philippines. Check it out. It's on HBO, Netflix, et al. Even you may learn something.

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How naive of me to not base my worldviews on those two high arbiters of truth, HBO and Netflix.

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What you just committed is called a "Shoot the Messenger "Fallacy. Here's the best description of it I've heard. Seems to peg you: "That's the ad hominem fallacy shoot the messenger-discredit the message by discrediting the messenger even though the two have no logical relation. It's a testament to our educational system that so many people fall for it. Though part of it, I'm sure, is that it simply gives many people a rationale for believing what they already want to believe." Insinuating that information could not be valid because of the source is classic StM. Of course, wouldn't expect you to know that, since your worldviews are obviously based in mythology which, based on your condescending style of debate, has led you to believe YOU are somehow actually "The Arbiter of Truth." Next you'll be explaining to me how the Earth is Flat? If you change your mind and decide to try and grow a brain, it's called "Q: Into the Storm."

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Lmao…you attacked him as a messenger first

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Kary Mullis Nobel laureate in chemistry and inventor of the PCR test on Tony Fauci.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Oza1j2_WqBk

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How disappointing.

A simple Red Herring VIDEO?

Thank you for that.

This Red Herring is NO Proof.

Have you no voice anymore? Your initial comment was at least YOUR thoughts.

Nevertheless, I will refute it for you.

This video—and Dr Kary Mullis himself--needs some context.

First, Dr Mullis and Dr Fauci had competing hypotheses in the mid 1980’s for the causation of AIDS.

Fauci has been proven right. Mullis was proven wrong and embittered.

So, it is no surprise that this video is just 2 minutes of Mullis expressing his disdain & dislike for Dr Anthony Fauci.

This is only evidence of Scientifically driven enmity—nothing more than Sour Grapes on the part of Dr Mullis

Second, suggesting that Mullis invented the PCR test and if HE said “it cannot be used to detect Covid-19,” then Fauci must be lying, ergo, Covid-19 must be a hoax or a De-population Campaign falls woefully short of anything but a deflection, BECAUSE…

…it seems that Mullis NEVER SAID that the PCR test could NOT detect viruses.

Dr Kary Mullis never said that as the DIED BEFORE Covid-19 existed.

That was John Lauritsen.

But…IF he had, would the fact that Dr Mullis was WRONG about AIDS could he perhaps have been wrong that the PCR test cannot detect Covid-19 if he had said that?

Again, using dated or debunked “Science," or in this case--Scientist--to try and debunk CURRENT, Peer-reviewed and AGREED upon Science is unsound logic at best and willful ignorance at worst.

The 3 article links on bottom go into detail about the competing theories of the causation of AIDS, and how Mullis was proven wrong and Fauci was proven right.

THIS article explains what you are misunderstanding about the PCR test.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-pcr-idUSKBN24420X

It is simply a process for REPLICATING Genetic material—DNA—whether from Humans OR Viruses.

Please read this and share your thoughts, with something hopefully more than the cache of videos you have accumulated in your conformationally biased research.

I have included the text of the majority of this short article in the hopes that your cadre of unbelievers may read it as well.

I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR THE CAPS, BUT IT IS THE ONLY WAY TO emphasize ON THIS PLATFORM.

Fact check: Inventor of method used to test for COVID-19 didn’t say it can’t be used in virus detection

By Reuters Staff

5 MIN READ

Correction Nov. 13, 2020: The verdict of this fact check has been changed from false to misleading, to reflect that the quote examined may have been a fair reflection of Mullis’s views, even if not a direct quote. The body of the text is updated in places to further clarify this.

Reuters Fact Check. REUTERS/Axel Schmidt

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Social media users have been sharing a quote attributed to the inventor of the Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) test, currently being used to detect COVID-19, which says “PCR tests cannot detect free infectious viruses at all”. This quote appears not to be a direct quote from the inventor, Kary Mullis, has lost some context and does not mean COVID-19 testing is fraudulent, as suggested by some social media posts.

The posts have been shared over 1,000 times on Facebook (here , here , here).

The post begins with the words “COVID-19 TEST a FRAUD?”, then introduces the alleged quote from Mullis, who invented the PCR method in 1985 and was recognized for this achievement by being awarded the Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 1993 (here).

However, the quote is actually from an article written by John Lauritsen in December 1996 about HIV and AIDS, not COVID-19 (here).

THE CONTEXT AROUND THE QUOTE SHOWS LAURITSEN IS NOT SAYING PCR TESTS DO NOT WORK. INSTEAD, HE IS CLARIFYING THAT PCR IDENTIFIES SUBSTANCES QUALITATIVELY NOT QUANTITATIVELY, DETECTING THE GENETIC SEQUENCES OF VIRUSES, BUT NOT THE VIRUSES THEMSELVES: “PCR IS INTENDED TO IDENTIFY SUBSTANCES QUALITATIVELY, BUT BY ITS VERY NATURE IS UNSUITED FOR ESTIMATING NUMBERS. ALTHOUGH THERE IS A COMMON MISIMPRESSION THAT THE VIRAL LOAD TESTS ACTUALLY COUNT THE NUMBER OF VIRUSES IN THE BLOOD, THESE TESTS CANNOT DETECT FREE, INFECTIOUS VIRUSES AT ALL; THEY CAN ONLY DETECT PROTEINS THAT ARE BELIEVED, IN SOME CASES WRONGLY, TO BE UNIQUE TO HIV. THE TESTS CAN DETECT GENETIC SEQUENCES OF VIRUSES, BUT NOT VIRUSES THEMSELVES.”

EVEN IF MULLIS HAD VOICED A SIMILAR STATEMENT BEFORE HIS DEATH IN 2019, THIS QUOTE DOES NOT MEAN THE PCR TEST IS UNABLE TO DETECT THE PRESENCE OF SARS-COV-2 - THE VIRUS THAT CAUSES COVID-19 - RATHER THAT IT CANNOT DETERMINE WHETHER THE INDIVIDUAL TESTED IS INFECTIOUS.

The PCR test is the preferred COVID-19 testing method in England (tinyurl.com/u9xxxup). It detects the presence of the virus by amplifying the virus’ genetic material to a point where it can be detected by scientists (tinyurl.com/y7rno7pf).

A spokesperson for Public Health England told Reuters why PCR tests are being used widely in England: “Molecular diagnostic tests, such as real-time PCR, are the gold standard methods for identifying individuals with an active viral infection, such as SARS-CoV-2 (the cause of COVID-19 disease), in their respiratory tract. These tests are rapid and produce results in real-time.

“It is important to note that detecting viral material by PCR does not indicate that the virus is fully intact and infectious, i.e. able to cause infection in other people. The isolation of infectious virus from positive individuals requires virus culture methods. These methods can only be conducted in laboratories with specialist containment facilities and are time consuming and complex.”

VERDICT

Misleading. The quote regarding the limitations of PCR tests appears not to be directly from Mullis, but in any case is not evidence the test is fraudulent. PCR tests are being used widely in England to show that SARS-CoV-2 viral genetic material is present in the patient.

This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read more about our work to fact-check social media posts here .

Our Standards: The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-pcr-idUSKBN24420X

Discussion of HIV/AIDS Theories, in which Dr Mullis was proven wrong.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4172096/

Explanation for retraction. It is not what you think it is. It’s because the article confused lay people into thinking that Mullis’ Hypothesis of “latent infection overload hypothesis” MIGHT be right. It was not, hence the article’s retraction to stop the confusion.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6830318/

And a general commentary on Scientific bias “Prejudice in science – Lessons from the coronavirus story”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7284236/

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And what cycle threshold has been implemented for COVID detection? 42…What is the recommended for viral detection? No higher than 30. Do you understand what a massive dereliction that is?

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So condescending...so "informed" yet, you missed the fact that they KNOW THAT.

"WHAT WAS CLAIMED

The World Health Organisation confirmed that the PCR test is flawed and all tests with a high cycle threshold (Ct) are invalid.

OUR VERDICT

False. It reiterated guidance that tests with a high Ct may need to be retested. There are lots of different reasons for high Ct value results. Interpreting them requires clinical context." Guess you don't have quite the grasp you think you do, my indignant friend.

https://fullfact.org/health/cycle-threshold-values/

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I have researched this term and grasp the concept, but would you mind explaining your concern here a lil more clearly? Possibly with some reference? Unless you are a virologist, I find it hard to believe you understand this and I promise you no one on here has a clue what you are trying to say.

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You dont grasp it all. You just wanna sound smart. If you knew anything about it you would know that Jonathan is right. Read this and come back https://cormandrostenreview.com/

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lol I don't think a single person on here believes anything of the kind. You're revealing your own idiocy, which to us is a source of amusement and pity.

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The idea that you "...don't think a single person on here believes anything of the kind...." is not shocking to me. Logical thought, underpinned by objective scientific research is relatively void on this substack, as it is populated mostly with Antivaxxers.

I am amused by the notion that you seem to think you have responded with a biting rejoinder that has cut me to the quick--this only reveals how droll you are and where you should actually direct your pity. Ad Hominem attacks are nothing more than Asimov's "last refuge of the incompetent." As for your belief that I am "revealing your own idiocy?" I must admit you are correct. For me to continue to "debate" with a thicket of idiots is, in itself, idiocy. Thank you for pointing that out. Glad to have amused you, but you may keep your pity for yourself. Based on your input, I expect you may need it again soon.

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Hmm all the Substackers I read frequently read and link to scientific studies in JAMA, NEJM, BMJ, The Lancet, Science Direct, govt. data, and the like, not "Q" or whatever you think. I voted for Biden actually, and I have an Ivy League degree, but I'm disgusted by the lies and anti-science interventions that have been proven over and over to do nothing. What are the safest places now? Florida, Sweden, India, Africa. What are the most Covid-ridden? Europe, for one--almost anywhere with the highest case rates (yes cases, not hospitalizations) have the highest case rates--so go ahead and spread virus since that's what you're good at. Disgusting. Enjoy your biannual (or perhaps more often) experimental shots! Good day!

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"...several ulterior motives in play, none of which have anything to do with our health" should be obvious to all people, but most are so mush-brained from their crappy diet, lack of critical thinking, and mind-control from tv/film/music/social media, that they may NEVER come back to the living. They have succumbed to the Death Cult run by CON-TROLL-ers who seek our constant adoration/worship in order to remain in power. At this point, I think enough people are aware of the scam that the so-called "authorities" and "experts" have actually IRL lost their "authority," but they are clinging to their power, pulling out all the black magic stops with these ILL-USIONS, desperate to permanently zombify enough folks who keep them alive and in CON-TROLL, however ill-usory that control is. Stay on your own unique path of freedom, one step ahead of the Death Cult . . . by being TRULY ALIVE in your love and creativity!💖

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Never surrender to fear or those who use fear to control you.

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Exactly right. Fear feeds the CON-TROLL-ers. Don't feed the f*cks 🦆😆🤣

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China’s economy grew 3% during the plandemic. Major corporations of all stripes profited handsomely. Follow the money to the culprits. Our government gained more power over us and we have less freedom. Do the math, this is not complicated.

Now that the COVID mania has subsided, they have a nastier and more deadly boogeyman to scare us with. The beat goes on……

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Excellent post. Its a Hoax of huge proportion. The vaccine cartel has very sticky tentacles and a number of heads. The tentacles are long and sharp. The pillar need to be destroyed- the PCR lie. Its the number generator and main psy-op machine. The source of the terror and the variants. We need to hope Dr Reiner Fuellmich from the “Corona Extra-Parliamentary Inquiry Committee" or Außerparlamentarischer Corona Untersuchungsausschuss can succeed as that will cause the collapse.

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That modern moron slave named Don Wolt seems to be drinking too much bourbon! The thing that was prevalent in India and caused the spike in PCR labels [covid-19] was the massive deployment of artificial infections... I mean jabs!

https://i.postimg.cc/FHY6pMSJ/India-jab-culling.png

Keep enjoying OPERATION COVIDIUS and do nothing except OBEY!

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Great piece, Jordon. Their shoddy, fake official medical/biological science is further breaking-down in the eyes of the public. Baseless 'scientific' claims resting upon baseless claims resting upon baseless claims... resulting in countless bloodless coups....

As a thought experiment, consider, for a moment, 'Virus Theory' to be a failed hypothesis and utterly discredited.

In the ashes of that razing, what are we then left with when trying to explain the progression from sniffles to severe cold to pneumonia, etc -- in an individual?

* an overabundance of toxic chemicals in the body?

* an overabundance of toxic metals in the body?

* lack of sunlight (vitamin-D)?

* not enough sleep over an extended period of time?

* mineral deficiencies?

* side-effects from opioid use (shallow breathing)?

* a combination of some/all of the above?

the list goes on

liberating

Cheers (hot toddy)

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Check out: virusesarenotcontagious.com 😊

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Sure. "Before he passed, the patient reportedly told his nurse “I think I made a mistake. I thought this was a hoax, but it’s not.”

“He didn’t really believe. He thought he was young and he was invincible and wouldn’t get affected by the disease,” Dr. Appleby said."

https://fox8.com/news/coronavirus/i-thought-this-was-a-hoax-30-year-old-man-dies-after-attending-covid-party/

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This scott person, seems to be VERY triggered here. SO MANY "IMPORTANT" things to say... apparently he didn't feel heard as a child....

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No...I am not "triggered," my tough lil "keyboard warrior." Certainly not by an Ad Hominem/Red Herring attack by someone who is so cowardly they have to hide behind a pseudonym to screw up the courage to make comments like these. Mom let you out the the Basement, much? Either step away or try contributing to the conversation, lil guy.

To attempt to vilify or drag someone else down who IS participating in the debate with what can only be the described as snarky, childish remarks in the sad, pathetic hope that you will be considered "Cool" by all the other boys and girls here is not helpful, child. What happend in YOUR childhood to make you so pathetic you have to try and inflate your obviously suffering ego by trying to tear down others? Not enough couch time in the World for you, my cowardly lil friend. Grow up and engage or move on.

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Projection Scotty

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AGAIN, SO MANY FUCKING WORDS, and you say nothing. Shhhhhhhh.

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Go hide in a bubble, faggot.

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Ok Scott, after all your bloviating posts, lets just lock down again. You live in fear, you die in fear. You so 2020 man.

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Tell that to the 615,000++ Americans who ARE dead. How callous and ignorant Not looking to Lock down Mike, just looking to try and inform all the mythologically induced, anti -Science folk on here who keep sharing these debunked theories in this Echo Chamber of fear and hate. You are ALL most likely alive BECAUSE of vaccinations you received as kids, but now you deny them, even AS the infection/Death rates go DOWN. Explain that.

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"Anti-Science". You're a fucking cultist. Fuck off, Scotty-Bitch.

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How many of that 615,000+ actually died from COVID? How many of them were gluttonous fat fucks? You one of them? Cocksucker.

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How many of them smoke or made poor health decisions?

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Scott, your reply is what I expected. Emotion, deflection and Projection. I gladly pay to read Jordan and others at this site. When I have the time, I read and review the comments.

Why are you here? “just looking to try and inform all the mythologically induced, anti -Science folk on here” Rightttttt……deflection and Projection and throw in baseless emotional BS.

BLAH took care of the rest.

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He's here as an agitator, to whip up comment threads. That's either a Substack thing or strategy taken by some of its writers, but it's common.

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He is a gnat, reminds me of a guy on Facebook a year ago with his BS, one year ago today he was complaining about FL ditching the mad science, looks who is right. Fuck him, I do comments when I have the time. If he is a paid subscriber, he has the right to show his ignorance, looking at his profile, no need to look further.

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Why are YOU here?

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Why are you? Clown...

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Please show us how these claims have been debunked as you say. Using the word debunked, doesn't mean it's been actually debunked. You sound like a Jtrig recruit.

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The symptoms of the "Delta Variant" are the same as arsenic poisoning. India is highly polluted with arsenic.

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I think the reason is that there were recent articles circulating saying what a low Covid rate Africa has despite a very low vaccination rate. So the PR machine went to work to make Africa look like a viral epicenter .

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More and more information is coming out about these vaccines. Why are medical experts who are speaking out being censored? Check it out and you decide what you think.

https://covid.daystar.com

Sadly most of the media has become corrupt and being dishonest about all of this but one of the few real news channels that is not censoring and not being political correct is News Max.

https://NewsMax.com

Defending your freedoms and your country

https://ActForAmerica.org

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The American people and the rest of the world needs to fight back and stop allowing the government to take away your freedoms. Nobody has any right to try and force these so called vaccines.

https://www.constitutionallawgroup.us/seeking_help.php

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How is it that Sputnik V is effective against this as well as many other variants? Seems Moderna, J & J and Pfizer have to be retooled. What a crock.

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Why is Fauci still allowed to talk on tv? People have gone to prison for life over far less than what he's done.

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I'll supply the wooden stakes and salt..

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