Joe Biden did not resign himself. Jeff Zients and the comms interns are running the country. MSM is busy bootlicking DIE commissar president Kamala. Fun times all around.
Bingo! ... FLASH: Occupy #DEMs sez former President Barack H. O'bama (D) - Illinois, our nation's first openly "Black-Irish" president is now ... "ALL IN" and is ready to announce his affinity for President Elect #Kamala-Harris at a soon to be consummated time, venue and location.
Analysis: #Barack is like "Tinkerbell". You have to clap real loud before he decides to make an appearance. C=> https://youtu.be/m7lnrGSFFAM #Vogue
FLASH: Occupy #DEMs sez former President Barack H. O'bama (D) - Illinois, our nation's first openly "Black-Irish" president is now ... "ALL IN" and is ready to announce his affinity for President Elect #Kamala-Harris at a soon to be consummated time, venue and location.
Analysis: #Barack is like "Tinkerbell". You have to clap real loud before he decides to make an appearance. C=> https://youtu.be/m7lnrGSFFAM #Vogue
FLASH: “New polling shows #GEN-Z leaning #Kamala by a ratio of 2/3rds (66%) to 1/3rd (33%).” ~ Houston: “We not only have IGNITION … But, we've just separated from our 1st stage!“ ~ Jim Lovell #Zero-G-Hero
FLASH: Occupy #DEMs sez former President Barack H. O'bama (D) - Illinois, our nation's first openly "Black-Irish" president is now ... "ALL IN" and is ready to announce his affinity for President Elect #Kamala-Harris at a soon to be consummated time, venue and location.
Analysis: #Barack is like "Tinkerbell". You have to clap real loud before he decides to make an appearance. C=> https://youtu.be/m7lnrGSFFAM #Vogue
Please don’t believe most of what is on Social Media, especially Charlie Kirk with his devious Turning Point rhetoric. Let’s just admit that America has many enemies within! And the rest of us must unite to fight for our country by defeating all of them with the truth.
How do we fix our FULLY corrupted systems? Here is an thought: Don't trust, VERIFY. We must build a new decentralized and transparent system to hold our representatives accountable.
If Kamala assumes the presidency the Democrats no longer control the tie breaking vote in the Senate until Kamala’s VP pick is approved by both houses of congress. That has taken months in the past and would essentially derail the nonstop appointing of lefty judges they currently enjoy.
This is why they will pretend he is running things as long as they can.
This should be completely illegal and a hard halt made to any laws/appointments until this is fully resolved. Unbelievable. Trump would be impeached for this and 25th out so fast it would make you sick.
If Trump is not currently in prison for a few of the many crimes he has committed against this nation’s laws, neither would he be impeached for this or any other myriad of offenses that any Democratic President would have been charged, tried, and convicted for!
Under the 25th section 4, Kamala would not become the actual President; she would be *Acting* President while Biden is sidelined during his disability. She would only become President, triggering a vacancy in the Vice Presidency, if Biden were to die or resign.
They're not invoking the 25th because only Kamala and a majority of the Cabinet can do that, and then Biden (aka Jill) would presumably object, and the 2/3 of both houses of Congress would have to agree with Kamala. Politically, that would look like a stab in the back from Kamala, and would probably tank the future careers of the Cabinet officers, and also they wouldn't have the votes in Congress.
Correct. Kamala would become "acting president" and a new VP couldn't be installed, because the 25th Amendment allows for the return of the elected POTUS if his condition allows it (which would return Kamala to her regular VP duties). But while acting POTUS, Kamala couldn't possibly perform her legislative function as president of the Senate (because as acting POTUS she'd be firmly within the realm of the executive branch), and would be unavailable to perform any tie-breaking in the Senate.
Strategically and tactically, the Dems are making a mistake. I would invoke 25th, to give Kamala Presidency, which would help her chances in the election. I don't want Kamala as President, but stating how it would be more effective for Dems.
However, the Dems are liars and cheats so they choose the path driven by fear.
Do we want People who lead from fear? I think not.
That's actually an open Constitutional question. The 25th section 4 says that the Acting President shall assume the duties of the President, but there's nothing that says they must give up the duties of the Vice President.
It's just like about 15 years ago when the Democrats tried to pass 0bamadoesntcare without a single Republican vote, and then Ted Kennedy died. They had to re-plan their political strategy to get it through.
The amendment doesn't say that. The speaker is in line after the VP to become president, but only if they are both lost at the same time. If a VP is lost while a POTUS is still in office, the POTUS appoints a new VP and the Senate confirms. See Lyndon Johnson/Hubert Humphrey & Spiro Agnew/Gerald Ford. The Speaker did not ascend to the VP position when that position was vacated in those situations. Under the amendment, the VP position isn't vacated as the VP is only acting POTUS and may return to that position if the elected POTUS overcomes the disability that caused his relief from duty.
No, it doesn't. Neither in the main body nor in any of the Amendments. The term "speaker" appears only five times in the entire text (with four of them in the 25th Amendment) of the Constitution. They boil down to: (1) The House chooses who the Speaker will be, and (2) When a declaration that the President cannot perform his/her duties is made (and when the President declares him/herself ready to reassume his/her duties), the President Pro-Tempore of the Senate and the Speaker get the notices. That's it...there are no other references to the Speaker.
Republicans, where are you? Why are you not clamoring for full disclosure here????? If you think that would be disrespectful - grow up. The Democrats have zero respect for anyone but themselves.
Exactly! And we all know the last "Joe" is a different one than who went to Vegas! Just HOW was he able to grow inches taller after he got back home? New "Joe" acting like old "Joe" who wasn't the original "Joe" to begin with!!!
Because the 25th Amendment doesn't have a "trigger." The amendment describes a process by which responsible persons take steps to remove from power an POTUS who is sufficiently mentally and/or physically handicapped that he is a threat to the Republic. Alas, there are scant few "responsible persons" in positions of authority capable of invoking the amendment.
Oh the irony. Don’t I remember correctly that in the not to distant past, a VP was formally a temporary POTUS when the President had nothing more than a brief medical procedure under anesthesia?
Not become "a threat to the Republic," but "unable to perform the duties of the office of POTUS."
But you are right: it only empowers cabinet heads and the VP to make that judgment. It came into being after we realized there was no Constitutional guidance in removing a mentally incapacitated FDR in 1945.
You are correct. I was thinking of impeachment. Still, a sufficiently mentally incompetent POTUS could also be a threat to the Republic, but he couldn't be removed by impeachment for not having yet committed any crimes!
But remember, "high crimes and misdemeanors" leaves a lot of leeway* for the People to decide, at any given point in time, just what behavior qualifies in ridding ourselves of tyrants.
Again correct, but doubtless the cause for removal by impeachment must be actual crimes, and not mere disagreements over policy or how a policy is conducted.
Yes, I'm constantly amazed at the Founders' genius. As is said, the Constitution doesn't need to be re-written, it needs to be re-read!
I carry a pocket edition. Lately, I've been sharing the 25th with all who care.
Thank you, The. I feel you'll understand that disagreements/arguments with fellow strict constructionists are one of life's sweet pleasures that anti-Constitutionists (for lack of a better word) will never understand.
As was proven in the Trump Administration! No one is brave enough to buck the dear leader of a cult. Plus, very few are conscious enough of what is happening to them to have any desire to do so.
It's the lied-to-who-have-believed I try to reach, and welcome home to the truth. That's gotta be a difficult process. They aren't "deplorables," iykwim.
And we are living out “Dave,” the 1993 film. I have considered that, too. What a crazy world we are living in right now. Wonder how it will play out?🤔🇺🇸
Just talking about that movie the other night. But in that movie, the VP turned out to be a good and decent man, and the First Lady was classy and kind.
And why don’t all citizens vote against Trump’s Project 2025? That’s much more important than invoking Amendment 25 against Biden! The Biden presidency is temporary. Project 2025 would destroy our country and the future of our children and grandchildren.
There is also another way (that has never been used yet): Section 4 of the 25th declares that a Congressionally appointed review body feel the president is no longer able to perform their duties, they can submit this belief in writing to Congress, resulting in the replacement of the president with the vice president.
Now, people, if the 25th amendment was not deployed for Donald Trump, how can anyone sane person say it should be invoked against Biden. Trump was already in decline when he took office. Things went from bad to worse. We actually lost count of all the misdeeds and insanity which defined him time in office. History will not be kind to
That's not applicable in this case: Congress must first establish the review body by law...which would require the President's signature. Then the review body could do what you suggest. Congress votes only when the President declares the previous infirmity (that caused the powers to be transferred in the first place) is resolved and the VP & Cabinet (or that legally constituted review body) disputes the President's declaration of fitness.
One of the things that is most repellent to me today, on top of all the lies we're told by the Dem Elite, Deep State, Controlled Media - is how Kamala Harris was acting today. Laughing, excited, happy, pretending to talk to Joe on the phone (fake call obviously), how much both families love each other (they don't) while Joe may actually be dead or near death. The coldness & callousness of how they are treating this man, whom I personally profoundly dislike, stuns me. It's heartless & people like this who treat people like Legos, should not run the United States. They all belong in JAIL.
Not completely, but it does put us on the right track. Biden never went to Johns Hopkins, and he wasn't dead because he deboarded the plane. (Or at least SOMEBODY pretending to be him did.) Still, lots and lots of questions here.
What would cause them to change from going to the LV hospital, and instead fly across the country at breakneck speed (and can that be done in 3h48m subsonic?).
Miraculous recovery? Avoiding publicity? They left the good drugs in Delaware? Or...
Is that the moment Biden had a moment of clarity, and realized he could not go on?
From what I'm hearing (still conjecture obv) it was a 'stroke' that ended up being something less severe than a full stroke that they determined they could treat on the way back east. (Remember that super scary moment where something like that happened to Ron Paul?)
Your take here matches my wife's and my conjecture also. We just re-heard his phone call-in to Harris, and I swear it sounds like he only has half a face working.
Poor guy. No matter his many faults, I don't want him to suffer in old age.
When I saw the footage of him getting into the Presidential limousine my exact words were, "poor man." I don't like him, but it would take a dark soul not to have some empathy.
When a caller, allegedly Biden, called to Harris HQ, his voice was slurred and sounded like he had had a stroke. The odd thing, though, is that, on that call, the caller coherently rambled off several names, very uncharacteristic of Biden. Even on his best day, Biden could never have done that.
Wouldn't surprise me if he's been having TIAs (what is commonly called "mini stroke") for a while now. They can resolve, but I imagine flying is very stressful on a brain that has just experienced one.
It definitely proves once again just how much lying goes on with this administration. Nothing is too sacred, not even the life of a man, the leader of our country. It’s all manipulation to achieve political ends. All the lies revealed just in the past month alone should cause all the Democratic supporters to start using their brains and start to question whether or not Trump really lies as much as they have accused him of.
I bet the details given to Kirk were basically accurate as for what was being told to others, but they were changing their plans so quickly and often that some of it was switched last minute before everyone knew. I bet at one point they did intend to take him to John Hopkins but then something else happened to change that without others knowing. What if he died on the flight back and for some reason they just flew to Delaware instead because of it? 🤷🏼♀️ Their secrecy and evasiveness is tiring. I can’t take four more years of their b.s.
It seems impossible for anyone to think that the Biden Administration lies but believe that the Trump Administration was an example of truthfulness and transparency! Of course it depends more on point of view than reality.
Biden was headed to UMC TRAUMA. You don’t go there for disease problems (cardiac arrest, stroke, COVID). You go to UMC trauma when a patient is suffering a trauma: gunshot wounds, stabbings, auto accidents, and blunt force trauma when elderly patients fall from heights (stairs & ladders) or trip and fall to the ground hitting head or breaking bones. Biden had some sort of trauma - this had absolutely nothing to do with COVID as it was claimed.
If he actually contracted Covid (again) and was put on Paxlovid, that could be it, as Paxlovid is contra-indicated for /a lot/ of other medications and substances. Here's a list from the swedish pharamceutical registry, the public version:
Nirmatrelvir, Ritonavir: may cause allergic reaction
The directory notes that as Paxlovid is new and experimental and therefore only has temporary clearance, it may be contra-indicated for more medications/chemicals.
Remember, this is a man who has had two aneurysms in the past. A stroke has always been a distinct possibility for him, especially if he has been juiced up on stimulants.
Trauma centers can deal with medical trauma, as in stroke or heart attack too. Trauma is more an indicator of skill-level present at a facility. Most major hospitals will be classified as a "trauma center."
He might have overdosed on accident. They’ve been pumping him up with so many drugs for so long. I mean, the man is old and can barely walk, much less talk. It was only a matter of time.
The media immediately bent over backward with ingratiating coverage of Biden's "selfless," "patriotic," "country-over-self" decision to step down from the campaign, gushing about his "achievements" and embellishing his presidential legacy. The media was acting as though they knew something they were not reporting, getting ahead of more serious health complications that would allow them to segue their invented narrative of Biden greatness into a neat eulogy.
It almost makes me think the party wanted to appoint a successor to keep down the infighting and were worried about free for all over the nomination if Biden turned out to be incapacitated.
"Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress."
Exactly. Both the Presidency *and* Vice Presidency have to vacant at the same time for the Speaker to succeed to the Presidency. There's no procedure for succeeding to the Vice Presidency.
Dr. Kevin O’Connor, Biden's non-credentialed personal physician, should be thoroughly investigated. He doesn't deserve to have a medical license. And maybe belongs in prison. Is there ONE straight arrow within the whole Biden cabal or is everyone crooked?!!
I believe he has been financially involved with one of the Biden brothers' financial scams - the healthcare one - Americare? He definitely needs to be investigated. Everyone associated with Biden needs to be investigated - ALL CROOKED. Kamela Harris needs to GO TO JAIL.
Better late than never, but I feel your frustration. Peeps should go back and watch the Clarence Thomas hearings after CT was accused of bogus sex harassment by Anita Hill. Biden chaired those, and he's a boob and an ass.
You have a very arrogant attitude towards others. Many people have busy lives and can't obsess over politics. Yes, a lot of people are just trying to understand and we should try to help them instead of insulting people. We all acquire knowledge and learn at different rates.
Actually, it’s because they don’t care. And they don’t want help. It’s usually the same type of people I warned about the jab…can’t be bothered to know what’s going in their body.
Do they even acknowledge the existence of the constitution? This admin and Trump’s violated every amendment during the plandemic, they don’t give a shit
I am actually sorry for Joe Biden, despite his many flaws and damage he's done to this country. I would not wish this on any frail old man. Kamala Harris and many of the other Democrats NEED TO GO TO JAIL - this is a COUP and you don't replace a sitting POTUS like this. Even a bad one like Joe.
That might be true although I don't know if I'd bring Joe in on any plan because demented people lose their filters. I can't help but feel sorry for any old person treated like this, it's so cruel. Even to someone like Joe Biden. It says something about what we are as a country that we would allow this and certainly says a lot about how vile the Democrat Party is.
Joe Biden did not resign himself. Jeff Zients and the comms interns are running the country. MSM is busy bootlicking DIE commissar president Kamala. Fun times all around.
“So, we have “Scary Spice”, “Posh Spice”, “Baby Spice”, “Sporty Spice”, “Ginger Spice” and now “Coconut Spice”, eh?” ~ Da Dice
And Machiavellian Spice
Over & over this is posted on various stacks.
What’s up?
No info just heading
I don't know what to believe anymore. I truly don't.
Who in the BLAZES is running my country right now?!
The Kenyan.
“So, we have “Scary Spice”, “Posh Spice”, “Baby Spice”, “Sporty Spice”, “Ginger Spice” and now “Coconut Spice”, eh?” ~ Da Dice
I believe we now can confirm that fact.
Did that “jughead” #Barry ever finally endorse #Kamala? What’s he afraid of? She don’t bite!
I suspect he is just playing a game to fool everyone.
Bingo! ... FLASH: Occupy #DEMs sez former President Barack H. O'bama (D) - Illinois, our nation's first openly "Black-Irish" president is now ... "ALL IN" and is ready to announce his affinity for President Elect #Kamala-Harris at a soon to be consummated time, venue and location.
Analysis: #Barack is like "Tinkerbell". You have to clap real loud before he decides to make an appearance. C=> https://youtu.be/m7lnrGSFFAM #Vogue
That fool was never running anything but his mouth.
well put
FLASH: Occupy #DEMs sez former President Barack H. O'bama (D) - Illinois, our nation's first openly "Black-Irish" president is now ... "ALL IN" and is ready to announce his affinity for President Elect #Kamala-Harris at a soon to be consummated time, venue and location.
Analysis: #Barack is like "Tinkerbell". You have to clap real loud before he decides to make an appearance. C=> https://youtu.be/m7lnrGSFFAM #Vogue
Big Mike
FLASH: “New polling shows #GEN-Z leaning #Kamala by a ratio of 2/3rds (66%) to 1/3rd (33%).” ~ Houston: “We not only have IGNITION … But, we've just separated from our 1st stage!“ ~ Jim Lovell #Zero-G-Hero
An unknown cabal.
Not unknown. WEF, UN, IMF,ICC,NATO,WHO, IHR, 176 Governments, 300+ Corporations Klaus likes One World Order.
“Who in BLAZES is running my country right now??” Same people who’ve been running it because it was never the figurehead Biden!
The Cabal™
Obama.
+ Jarrett + Dunn + Rice
As noted above...
Like I said...
FLASH: Occupy #DEMs sez former President Barack H. O'bama (D) - Illinois, our nation's first openly "Black-Irish" president is now ... "ALL IN" and is ready to announce his affinity for President Elect #Kamala-Harris at a soon to be consummated time, venue and location.
Analysis: #Barack is like "Tinkerbell". You have to clap real loud before he decides to make an appearance. C=> https://youtu.be/m7lnrGSFFAM #Vogue
Occupying forces.
Barry Soetoro, Zients, Jarret, Klain, Pelosi, Schumer, etc
and Bernie who is running the economy, Hillary running the state department….
Same people as have been doing so for 12 of the last 16 years.
And the 4 yrs they weren't, they were sabotaging it, especially the plandemic and J6 deep state op.
8 short yrs ago, I would have called myself crazy.
Pelosi
Her only failed op was the hit job on her old man.
Gives new meaning to the term "getting hammered."
Ha! Paul used to get hammered all by himself, like that time recently he went to Napa, wine-tasting, and pulled out in front of another car.
He was hammered twice that day.
Notice how the police never released who else was in the Porsche with Paulie when he crashed.
He might want to stay away from rent boys.
I'd forgotten!
Still, he's been a damn good political spouse, using all that insider information. That's been one hell of a mutually beneficial marriage!
The same "people" that have been running it since biden was installed.
Please don’t believe most of what is on Social Media, especially Charlie Kirk with his devious Turning Point rhetoric. Let’s just admit that America has many enemies within! And the rest of us must unite to fight for our country by defeating all of them with the truth.
I like Kirk
Barak Pedo Obama.
The same people who have been running it for the past 34 years. Klaus Schwab & Agenda 21.
Israel. They took over Vatican
I am😎
How do we fix our FULLY corrupted systems? Here is an thought: Don't trust, VERIFY. We must build a new decentralized and transparent system to hold our representatives accountable.
If the representatives got nothing to hide, then they got nothing to fear, right? Got any good ideas to add help us solve this problem? https://joshketry.substack.com/p/dont-trust-verify-we-must-build-a
Woke ass bitches.
Big Bad Timothy. It's been too long!
Always!
But don't worry, John. You'll always find my campfire.
Why hasn’t this triggered the 25th Amendment?
For the same reason Joe won’t step down.
If Kamala assumes the presidency the Democrats no longer control the tie breaking vote in the Senate until Kamala’s VP pick is approved by both houses of congress. That has taken months in the past and would essentially derail the nonstop appointing of lefty judges they currently enjoy.
This is why they will pretend he is running things as long as they can.
Wow I’ve never heard this reply before. It makes the most sense!
This should be completely illegal and a hard halt made to any laws/appointments until this is fully resolved. Unbelievable. Trump would be impeached for this and 25th out so fast it would make you sick.
🙄mmmmmhmmmm.
If Trump is not currently in prison for a few of the many crimes he has committed against this nation’s laws, neither would he be impeached for this or any other myriad of offenses that any Democratic President would have been charged, tried, and convicted for!
What crimes?
Under the 25th section 4, Kamala would not become the actual President; she would be *Acting* President while Biden is sidelined during his disability. She would only become President, triggering a vacancy in the Vice Presidency, if Biden were to die or resign.
They're not invoking the 25th because only Kamala and a majority of the Cabinet can do that, and then Biden (aka Jill) would presumably object, and the 2/3 of both houses of Congress would have to agree with Kamala. Politically, that would look like a stab in the back from Kamala, and would probably tank the future careers of the Cabinet officers, and also they wouldn't have the votes in Congress.
Correct. Kamala would become "acting president" and a new VP couldn't be installed, because the 25th Amendment allows for the return of the elected POTUS if his condition allows it (which would return Kamala to her regular VP duties). But while acting POTUS, Kamala couldn't possibly perform her legislative function as president of the Senate (because as acting POTUS she'd be firmly within the realm of the executive branch), and would be unavailable to perform any tie-breaking in the Senate.
Strategically and tactically, the Dems are making a mistake. I would invoke 25th, to give Kamala Presidency, which would help her chances in the election. I don't want Kamala as President, but stating how it would be more effective for Dems.
However, the Dems are liars and cheats so they choose the path driven by fear.
Do we want People who lead from fear? I think not.
Dang. I wish I'd read this better written explanation before trying to write it myself elsewhere, Davidtollah.
Well done!
That's actually an open Constitutional question. The 25th section 4 says that the Acting President shall assume the duties of the President, but there's nothing that says they must give up the duties of the Vice President.
Excellent analysis!
But I think, like warplans never survive the first battle, things unforseen/unthought-of will mess with the timeline!
It's just like about 15 years ago when the Democrats tried to pass 0bamadoesntcare without a single Republican vote, and then Ted Kennedy died. They had to re-plan their political strategy to get it through.
Ha. And didn't the idiot neocon McCain cast the single vote to save it at some point?
Thanks for the post, that put it in prospective,why they didn't really push for the 25th.
SPeaker of the House becomes VP/
The amendment doesn't say that. The speaker is in line after the VP to become president, but only if they are both lost at the same time. If a VP is lost while a POTUS is still in office, the POTUS appoints a new VP and the Senate confirms. See Lyndon Johnson/Hubert Humphrey & Spiro Agnew/Gerald Ford. The Speaker did not ascend to the VP position when that position was vacated in those situations. Under the amendment, the VP position isn't vacated as the VP is only acting POTUS and may return to that position if the elected POTUS overcomes the disability that caused his relief from duty.
Also, the Senate would be 50-50, with (temporarily) no VP to cast the tie-breaker.
Speaker of the House becomes VP. Constitution says so.
No, it doesn't. Neither in the main body nor in any of the Amendments. The term "speaker" appears only five times in the entire text (with four of them in the 25th Amendment) of the Constitution. They boil down to: (1) The House chooses who the Speaker will be, and (2) When a declaration that the President cannot perform his/her duties is made (and when the President declares him/herself ready to reassume his/her duties), the President Pro-Tempore of the Senate and the Speaker get the notices. That's it...there are no other references to the Speaker.
Yep. Not too hard to look up things in the Constitution, folks.
I got a few editions, but my favorite one fits in my back pocket...
I forgot about holding onto the Senate. It’s the only explanation that makes sense.
Republicans, where are you? Why are you not clamoring for full disclosure here????? If you think that would be disrespectful - grow up. The Democrats have zero respect for anyone but themselves.
Exactly! And we all know the last "Joe" is a different one than who went to Vegas! Just HOW was he able to grow inches taller after he got back home? New "Joe" acting like old "Joe" who wasn't the original "Joe" to begin with!!!
Excellent point.
Good point. Haven’t thought of that one
Interesting insight.
I think you are right
That would be admitting the Republican conspiracy theories were correct.
Because the 25th Amendment doesn't have a "trigger." The amendment describes a process by which responsible persons take steps to remove from power an POTUS who is sufficiently mentally and/or physically handicapped that he is a threat to the Republic. Alas, there are scant few "responsible persons" in positions of authority capable of invoking the amendment.
Oh the irony. Don’t I remember correctly that in the not to distant past, a VP was formally a temporary POTUS when the President had nothing more than a brief medical procedure under anesthesia?
You remember correctly. When Biden had his endoscopies, Harris was temporarily acting President.
Almost right.
Not become "a threat to the Republic," but "unable to perform the duties of the office of POTUS."
But you are right: it only empowers cabinet heads and the VP to make that judgment. It came into being after we realized there was no Constitutional guidance in removing a mentally incapacitated FDR in 1945.
You are correct. I was thinking of impeachment. Still, a sufficiently mentally incompetent POTUS could also be a threat to the Republic, but he couldn't be removed by impeachment for not having yet committed any crimes!
Exactly.
But remember, "high crimes and misdemeanors" leaves a lot of leeway* for the People to decide, at any given point in time, just what behavior qualifies in ridding ourselves of tyrants.
Oh, the genius of founders!
* e.g. has not yet come before the SCOTUS
Again correct, but doubtless the cause for removal by impeachment must be actual crimes, and not mere disagreements over policy or how a policy is conducted.
Yes, I'm constantly amazed at the Founders' genius. As is said, the Constitution doesn't need to be re-written, it needs to be re-read!
I carry a pocket edition. Lately, I've been sharing the 25th with all who care.
Thank you, The. I feel you'll understand that disagreements/arguments with fellow strict constructionists are one of life's sweet pleasures that anti-Constitutionists (for lack of a better word) will never understand.
As was proven in the Trump Administration! No one is brave enough to buck the dear leader of a cult. Plus, very few are conscious enough of what is happening to them to have any desire to do so.
Many independents and anti vaxxers havr called trump out.
I notice you only attack Republicans. (I attack both)
Might not be an issue if he is deceased….
But that would cause much greater issues if the Dems are lying about it.
Oh, they’re lying.
It's the lied-to-who-have-believed I try to reach, and welcome home to the truth. That's gotta be a difficult process. They aren't "deplorables," iykwim.
Of course they are lying. Sadly, that is all they do.
Why do I keep giving them one more benefit-of-the-doubt?
To make it easier for life-long Dems to see the light, at least just once this November.
We need a landslide mandate.
And we are living out “Dave,” the 1993 film. I have considered that, too. What a crazy world we are living in right now. Wonder how it will play out?🤔🇺🇸
Just talking about that movie the other night. But in that movie, the VP turned out to be a good and decent man, and the First Lady was classy and kind.
Probably died on AF 1
And why don’t all citizens vote against Trump’s Project 2025? That’s much more important than invoking Amendment 25 against Biden! The Biden presidency is temporary. Project 2025 would destroy our country and the future of our children and grandchildren.
VP has to "trigger" it
There is also another way (that has never been used yet): Section 4 of the 25th declares that a Congressionally appointed review body feel the president is no longer able to perform their duties, they can submit this belief in writing to Congress, resulting in the replacement of the president with the vice president.
Now, people, if the 25th amendment was not deployed for Donald Trump, how can anyone sane person say it should be invoked against Biden. Trump was already in decline when he took office. Things went from bad to worse. We actually lost count of all the misdeeds and insanity which defined him time in office. History will not be kind to
Good grief. Your kidding. You have to be.
That's not applicable in this case: Congress must first establish the review body by law...which would require the President's signature. Then the review body could do what you suggest. Congress votes only when the President declares the previous infirmity (that caused the powers to be transferred in the first place) is resolved and the VP & Cabinet (or that legally constituted review body) disputes the President's declaration of fitness.
Congress and Senate MUST DEMAND an “in-person” meeting with Joe Biden NOW!!! This is a national security issue.
They are all working together.
Congress and Senate just had an in-person meeting with their actual overseer, no need to panic. All you can do is meme.
https://i.imgur.com/Loj6DUO.png
One of the things that is most repellent to me today, on top of all the lies we're told by the Dem Elite, Deep State, Controlled Media - is how Kamala Harris was acting today. Laughing, excited, happy, pretending to talk to Joe on the phone (fake call obviously), how much both families love each other (they don't) while Joe may actually be dead or near death. The coldness & callousness of how they are treating this man, whom I personally profoundly dislike, stuns me. It's heartless & people like this who treat people like Legos, should not run the United States. They all belong in JAIL.
This corroborates the X tweet issued by Charlie Kirk. Thank you for the elaboration that of course isn't being reported in the F-ed up MSM.
Not completely, but it does put us on the right track. Biden never went to Johns Hopkins, and he wasn't dead because he deboarded the plane. (Or at least SOMEBODY pretending to be him did.) Still, lots and lots of questions here.
What would cause them to change from going to the LV hospital, and instead fly across the country at breakneck speed (and can that be done in 3h48m subsonic?).
Miraculous recovery? Avoiding publicity? They left the good drugs in Delaware? Or...
Is that the moment Biden had a moment of clarity, and realized he could not go on?
No visitor logs at his residence in Delaware.
From what I'm hearing (still conjecture obv) it was a 'stroke' that ended up being something less severe than a full stroke that they determined they could treat on the way back east. (Remember that super scary moment where something like that happened to Ron Paul?)
Yep.
Your take here matches my wife's and my conjecture also. We just re-heard his phone call-in to Harris, and I swear it sounds like he only has half a face working.
Poor guy. No matter his many faults, I don't want him to suffer in old age.
When I saw the footage of him getting into the Presidential limousine my exact words were, "poor man." I don't like him, but it would take a dark soul not to have some empathy.
When a caller, allegedly Biden, called to Harris HQ, his voice was slurred and sounded like he had had a stroke. The odd thing, though, is that, on that call, the caller coherently rambled off several names, very uncharacteristic of Biden. Even on his best day, Biden could never have done that.
Pre-recorded reading.
Just like the pre-planned "four more years" chant at once of Biden's rallies.
Wouldn't surprise me if he's been having TIAs (what is commonly called "mini stroke") for a while now. They can resolve, but I imagine flying is very stressful on a brain that has just experienced one.
Airforce 1 could be super-pressurized maybe?
https://rumble.com/v583mtp-mass-vaccination-and-stroke-victims-part-3.html
Control of the narrative
Yeah, you ho to closest hospital that can handle given issue
It definitely proves once again just how much lying goes on with this administration. Nothing is too sacred, not even the life of a man, the leader of our country. It’s all manipulation to achieve political ends. All the lies revealed just in the past month alone should cause all the Democratic supporters to start using their brains and start to question whether or not Trump really lies as much as they have accused him of.
I bet the details given to Kirk were basically accurate as for what was being told to others, but they were changing their plans so quickly and often that some of it was switched last minute before everyone knew. I bet at one point they did intend to take him to John Hopkins but then something else happened to change that without others knowing. What if he died on the flight back and for some reason they just flew to Delaware instead because of it? 🤷🏼♀️ Their secrecy and evasiveness is tiring. I can’t take four more years of their b.s.
Proves again the axiom of Acton: "power corrupts and and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
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It seems impossible for anyone to think that the Biden Administration lies but believe that the Trump Administration was an example of truthfulness and transparency! Of course it depends more on point of view than reality.
Lies, lies—all Dems do these days is lie.
Biden was headed to UMC TRAUMA. You don’t go there for disease problems (cardiac arrest, stroke, COVID). You go to UMC trauma when a patient is suffering a trauma: gunshot wounds, stabbings, auto accidents, and blunt force trauma when elderly patients fall from heights (stairs & ladders) or trip and fall to the ground hitting head or breaking bones. Biden had some sort of trauma - this had absolutely nothing to do with COVID as it was claimed.
Maybe he had a minor stroke or they thought he had a stroke but then it turned out to be another lapse.
This is exactly what I'm hearing from other people who have confirmed parts of this story.
Stroke is what I read/heard!
Tripped on his own feet, fell and busted his head open on the pavement? Or was he pushed?
Trauma hospitals also see non trauma patients in the e.r.
The hospital wasn't far from his location in Vegas. Maybe was going there because it was so close.
The local news broadcast in LV said the hospital reorganized it’s response to serve a non trauma issue
Drug overdose?
Or bad reaction to the stimulants he needs to talk semi-lucidly for enough time to make a short read of the teleprompter.
If he actually contracted Covid (again) and was put on Paxlovid, that could be it, as Paxlovid is contra-indicated for /a lot/ of other medications and substances. Here's a list from the swedish pharamceutical registry, the public version:
Nirmatrelvir, Ritonavir: may cause allergic reaction
Alfuzosin (enlarged prostate)
Ranolazin (chronic chestpains)
Dronedaron, propafenon, kinidin (heart disease, arrythmia)
Rifampicin, rifapentin (bacterial infections)
Apalutamid, neratinib, venetoklax (cancer)
Karbamazepin, fenobarbital, fenytoin, primidon (epilepsy)
Kolkicin (gout)
Terfenadin (allergies)
Lurasidon (schizofreni)
Pimozid, kvetiapin (schizofrenia, bipolar, depression, delusion)
Silodosin (enlarged prostate)
Eplerenon och ivabradin (cardio-vascular disease)
Dihydroergotamin och ergotamin (migraine)
Ergonovin och metylergonovin (anti-bleeding agents)
Cisaprid (stomach troubles)
Johannesört (Hypericum perforatum; St John's wort)
Voklosporin (immunodefence diseases)
Lovastatin, simvastatin, lomitapid (lowers cholesterol)
Eletriptan (migraine)
Lumakaftor/ivakaftor (cystisk fibros)
Finerenon (kidney disease due to type 2-diabetes)
Naloxegol (treat constripation caused by opioids)
Avanafil, vardenafil (impotence)
Sildenafil, tadalafil (impotence, also for pulmonell arteriell hypertoni)
Klorazepat, diazepam, estazolam, flurazepam, triazolam, midazolam (anti-anxiety)
Tolvaptan (hyponatremi)
The directory notes that as Paxlovid is new and experimental and therefore only has temporary clearance, it may be contra-indicated for more medications/chemicals.
Hi, Rikard!
My wife beat you to it.
She suggested that Biden would have had to go off his blood thinners to take Paxlovid, raising his risk of stroke. He has had two aneurysms.
Edit: The way things are going, the Mrs. and I might soon get on a slow boat to Sweden.
He wouldn't need to be off anticoagulation for this.
And to what does "this" specifically refer?
(Not trying to be cute; I want to correct myself coreectly!)
Educate me.
Specifically, is "anticoagulent" synonomous with "blood thinner"?
(Sorry if my question is unclear.)
Remember, this is a man who has had two aneurysms in the past. A stroke has always been a distinct possibility for him, especially if he has been juiced up on stimulants.
See, I have suspected that he has *not* been given other than mild uppers for this very reason.
Trauma centers can deal with medical trauma, as in stroke or heart attack too. Trauma is more an indicator of skill-level present at a facility. Most major hospitals will be classified as a "trauma center."
Correct. They also can be simultaneously established stroke centers and cardiac hospitals as well.
UMC has a stroke center.
Agree, it’s not Covid. But I believe UMC was the closest facility. Not sure your conclusion is accurate.
He might have overdosed on accident. They’ve been pumping him up with so many drugs for so long. I mean, the man is old and can barely walk, much less talk. It was only a matter of time.
All they’d have to do is cut the amount of drugs he’s given. He’d fall apart or go into withdrawals.
Weekend at Bernie's
Probably AI.
He sounded extremely healthy in that call. AI makes sense.
To me obviously ai, no doubt. He hadn't sounded that good in years.
As Kamala said on the rec…call????
The media immediately bent over backward with ingratiating coverage of Biden's "selfless," "patriotic," "country-over-self" decision to step down from the campaign, gushing about his "achievements" and embellishing his presidential legacy. The media was acting as though they knew something they were not reporting, getting ahead of more serious health complications that would allow them to segue their invented narrative of Biden greatness into a neat eulogy.
And this was as CNN almost sounded like they supported pushing him out.
It almost makes me think the party wanted to appoint a successor to keep down the infighting and were worried about free for all over the nomination if Biden turned out to be incapacitated.
Only heels up harris gets to keep fjb's campaign money. Anyone else put in his place has to start at zero. It's always about the money, right?!?
Harris raised more than her heels in the last 24 hours.
Try $81M.
Matt330 is right: The fix is in.
Yep. Kackle gets fjb's campaign kitty to add to that. Fucking insane the money 'wasted' on political campaigns!!! Love, hugs, and PERSEVERE yall!
If Joe is incapacitated, then Constitution order of succession must be followed.
This requires Cackles to ascend to the President's office and Speaker Johnson then becomes the Vice President...
Not quite. Section 2 of the 25th amendment:
"Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress."
The 25th Amendment hasn't been triggered and it's not likely to happen.
Back to Constitutional succession...
There is more than one part to the 25th.
You are referring to the part whereby the VP and other cabinet heads may declare the POTUS "unable" to perform his duties and then remove him.
You are right that *that* part has not been triggered.
No, I'm *NOT* referring to any part of the 25th Amendment...
I'm so glad I cleared that up...
Sorry, The, I mis-read you!
Exactly. Both the Presidency *and* Vice Presidency have to vacant at the same time for the Speaker to succeed to the Presidency. There's no procedure for succeeding to the Vice Presidency.
Not according to this... This is a link to the established "Presidential Succession Act of 1947".
https://www.senate.gov/about/officers-staff/president-pro-tempore/presidential-succession-act.htm
This should clear up any confusion.
It also explains why the DNC won't allow Joe to step down from the Office of the President.
It would automatically make Speaker Ron Johnson the Vice President, according to the Presidential Succession Act of 1947.
I know you meant “Mike” Johnson….
Dr. Kevin O’Connor, Biden's non-credentialed personal physician, should be thoroughly investigated. He doesn't deserve to have a medical license. And maybe belongs in prison. Is there ONE straight arrow within the whole Biden cabal or is everyone crooked?!!
I believe he has been financially involved with one of the Biden brothers' financial scams - the healthcare one - Americare? He definitely needs to be investigated. Everyone associated with Biden needs to be investigated - ALL CROOKED. Kamela Harris needs to GO TO JAIL.
Many of us knew about the Biden crime family years ago. And people are just waking up now?!🤦♀️
Better late than never, but I feel your frustration. Peeps should go back and watch the Clarence Thomas hearings after CT was accused of bogus sex harassment by Anita Hill. Biden chaired those, and he's a boob and an ass.
I remember!
You have a very arrogant attitude towards others. Many people have busy lives and can't obsess over politics. Yes, a lot of people are just trying to understand and we should try to help them instead of insulting people. We all acquire knowledge and learn at different rates.
Actually, it’s because they don’t care. And they don’t want help. It’s usually the same type of people I warned about the jab…can’t be bothered to know what’s going in their body.
And you can put him in prison with every doctor that received money for giving the CONvid jabs. And there’s A LOT! What pure evil.
Why do you say he isn't credentialed?
Do they even acknowledge the existence of the constitution? This admin and Trump’s violated every amendment during the plandemic, they don’t give a shit
I very much doubt DJT will make *those* mistakes again, but the Dems shredded the founding documents decades ago.
re: "This admin and Trump’s violated every..."
Gotta quit making stuff up.
I am actually sorry for Joe Biden, despite his many flaws and damage he's done to this country. I would not wish this on any frail old man. Kamala Harris and many of the other Democrats NEED TO GO TO JAIL - this is a COUP and you don't replace a sitting POTUS like this. Even a bad one like Joe.
Don't forget his Red Hitler speech basically making Maga the new Jewry.
Screw him. He was in on the coup to remove President Trump.
That might be true although I don't know if I'd bring Joe in on any plan because demented people lose their filters. I can't help but feel sorry for any old person treated like this, it's so cruel. Even to someone like Joe Biden. It says something about what we are as a country that we would allow this and certainly says a lot about how vile the Democrat Party is.