In addition to everything you mentioned they are killing thousands of Americans annually with their fentanyl attacks. Don’t forget that nothing comes out of China without the CCP’s blessing.
I don’t believe fully the Chinese “stealing” from us/US. I believe it was given to them. For decades us tax payers money has been flowing into china. Are we to believe that since the 90’s, china has been stealing money and tech, and congress and presidents sat there and did nothing about it? I believe somebody wanted china to rise and eventually armed.
Hehehehehe. You don’t believe China is “stealing” from us? Do you believe that they supply the cartels with all the precursor chemicals to make fentanyl? What about the fact that the Chinese are the primary money laundering agents for the cartels, with most Chinese national college students participating? You realize none of that could happen without CCP approval, right?
If you know how to use google, you can easily find many examples of Chinese IP and tech theft. Do you believe that Chinese nationals working at western universities steal any and all research data they touch, even going so far as to get on a plane to Beijing to personally deliver live virus samples? The Chinese are America’s biggest existential threat, the most dangerous we have ever faced.
Several decades ago I worked with a company that supplied adhesives to Chinese furniture manufacturers. The adhesives were made in the US and shipped in bulk for distribution in China. China told this company that they needed to build a factory in China to continue this business but that they could continue to ship some of the “trade secret” raw materials to the new plant in China from the US plant. The deal was signed. I cautioned my CEO friend to be very circumspect when dealing with China. He felt that the deal terms would protect his company. Within five years China had learned what the secret materials were as well as the technology to make the final product. His company would no longer be needed. Last I heard the almost new chemical plant was sold to China for pennies on the dollar.
Absolutely agree—your piece nails the CCP's bad-faith tactics and systemic theft, which have bled America dry for decades. I’d argue we’ve been in a hot war with China for 40 years—a 5G war of economic, technological, and ideological sabotage, just without kinetic conflict. They’ve known it and acted ruthlessly, while we’ve been slow to respond. Trump is the first to truly recognize this existential threat and take bold steps to counter it, unlike Biden, whose family’s dealings left us vulnerable to Beijing’s corruption. It’s past time to treat this war seriously—Trump should use every lever to kneecap China’s influence, protect our sovereignty, and rebuild trade with allies we can trust. Wall Street’s short-term whining shouldn’t derail the long-term necessity of decoupling.
In addition to the larger more publicized thefts that are mentioned in this post, there are billions lost when factories copy the products that they're being paid to manufacture in their factories and production facilities. I personally know of a couple of cases where a fully patented product was manufactured in China and is now completely accessible on Amazon in dozens of identical versions but Amazon refuses to remove them.
You would not believe the corruption and graft that exists in China among their own citizens, their businesses, and the government. My son and his wife were just in China a couple weeks ago visiting her parents and her hometown, and the stories they tell of the bribery and backroom deals would blow your mind. At least in the United States we pretend that it doesn't happen here. Haha
China is still very much a communist regime. It's the new type of communism where you are given a social credit score and if you kiss the government's ass, you might get a modicum of freedom. Do not kiss the government's ass, and you face a life of struggle, starvation and death.
And we know from history, that communism, socialism, Marxism and all the rest of the leftists are death and murder machines. I think in about 15 years China will be the kingpin simply because the US is skating on very thin ice.
After Hong Kong, anyone with illusions China is a different kind of communist country does not know history or is counting on the taxpayer to rescue them when their investments in China are nationalized when China goes into hot war mode against us. And our CEOs and politicos made it happen. Anyone that listens to them now needs their head examined.
Thank you for mentioning these few of many examples of CCP tech theft. So many people overlook this when discussing tariffs and trade relations with China. The fentanyl and the Chinese money laundering gangs are also a huge threat to our country.
It’s not just about the fact that the Wall Street led de industrialization and Main Street destruction, has gutted our middle class and ensured income inequality has reached a level that can never be reversed. It is also the fact that the Chinese will never be a “fair” trading partner, and have been engaged in a literal war with us for decades now. They will never back down, and the damage already done may very well make it impossible for us to ever win this war.
Insanely, they are the only ones fighting, while we do nothing but get kicked in the balls again and again. After every kick, we bow politely and give thanks.
I completely agree with everything you said, but I have also heard since China buys a huge amount of our debt they have the upper hand on our economy. I don't know if that is true, but if it is, just another reason to elect people like DeSantis who actually want to balance budgets or run a surplus. Trump is his own worst enemy when he pushes thru a RINO budget, but yet wants to ween us off of China.
"Wall Street may not like it, but America's complete decoupling from Chinese trade is both morally and economically sound in the long term."
Fair enough. But in the short term, does it make sense? Don't we have to do something about key dependencies (e.g., rare earths) ***before*** we de-couples?
It will take probably a decade to transfer the ability to manufacture all that we buy to other friendlier countries. If we shut things off immediately, all of our everyday things will get very expensive. China makes consumer goods for the world, so there are no other suppliers ramped up to go to in the short run. Decoupling from China will have to be done smartly, but maybe we must do it.
In addition to everything you mentioned they are killing thousands of Americans annually with their fentanyl attacks. Don’t forget that nothing comes out of China without the CCP’s blessing.
I don’t believe fully the Chinese “stealing” from us/US. I believe it was given to them. For decades us tax payers money has been flowing into china. Are we to believe that since the 90’s, china has been stealing money and tech, and congress and presidents sat there and did nothing about it? I believe somebody wanted china to rise and eventually armed.
Without a villain, the hero business goes bankrupt.
Hehehehehe. You don’t believe China is “stealing” from us? Do you believe that they supply the cartels with all the precursor chemicals to make fentanyl? What about the fact that the Chinese are the primary money laundering agents for the cartels, with most Chinese national college students participating? You realize none of that could happen without CCP approval, right?
If you know how to use google, you can easily find many examples of Chinese IP and tech theft. Do you believe that Chinese nationals working at western universities steal any and all research data they touch, even going so far as to get on a plane to Beijing to personally deliver live virus samples? The Chinese are America’s biggest existential threat, the most dangerous we have ever faced.
Several decades ago I worked with a company that supplied adhesives to Chinese furniture manufacturers. The adhesives were made in the US and shipped in bulk for distribution in China. China told this company that they needed to build a factory in China to continue this business but that they could continue to ship some of the “trade secret” raw materials to the new plant in China from the US plant. The deal was signed. I cautioned my CEO friend to be very circumspect when dealing with China. He felt that the deal terms would protect his company. Within five years China had learned what the secret materials were as well as the technology to make the final product. His company would no longer be needed. Last I heard the almost new chemical plant was sold to China for pennies on the dollar.
Absolutely agree—your piece nails the CCP's bad-faith tactics and systemic theft, which have bled America dry for decades. I’d argue we’ve been in a hot war with China for 40 years—a 5G war of economic, technological, and ideological sabotage, just without kinetic conflict. They’ve known it and acted ruthlessly, while we’ve been slow to respond. Trump is the first to truly recognize this existential threat and take bold steps to counter it, unlike Biden, whose family’s dealings left us vulnerable to Beijing’s corruption. It’s past time to treat this war seriously—Trump should use every lever to kneecap China’s influence, protect our sovereignty, and rebuild trade with allies we can trust. Wall Street’s short-term whining shouldn’t derail the long-term necessity of decoupling.
Decoupling will be painful but necessary.
Hard to argue that China is operating in good faith. It is also hard to argue that EU/UK is. Plus trying to start a war with Russia.
In addition to the larger more publicized thefts that are mentioned in this post, there are billions lost when factories copy the products that they're being paid to manufacture in their factories and production facilities. I personally know of a couple of cases where a fully patented product was manufactured in China and is now completely accessible on Amazon in dozens of identical versions but Amazon refuses to remove them.
You would not believe the corruption and graft that exists in China among their own citizens, their businesses, and the government. My son and his wife were just in China a couple weeks ago visiting her parents and her hometown, and the stories they tell of the bribery and backroom deals would blow your mind. At least in the United States we pretend that it doesn't happen here. Haha
China is still very much a communist regime. It's the new type of communism where you are given a social credit score and if you kiss the government's ass, you might get a modicum of freedom. Do not kiss the government's ass, and you face a life of struggle, starvation and death.
And we know from history, that communism, socialism, Marxism and all the rest of the leftists are death and murder machines. I think in about 15 years China will be the kingpin simply because the US is skating on very thin ice.
You increase your risk dramatically if you hire anyone who speaks Chinese as his first language.
After Hong Kong, anyone with illusions China is a different kind of communist country does not know history or is counting on the taxpayer to rescue them when their investments in China are nationalized when China goes into hot war mode against us. And our CEOs and politicos made it happen. Anyone that listens to them now needs their head examined.
Thank you for this. You barely scratch the surface of a very deep and broad ocean of their theft. It's continuous and pervasive.
Thank you for mentioning these few of many examples of CCP tech theft. So many people overlook this when discussing tariffs and trade relations with China. The fentanyl and the Chinese money laundering gangs are also a huge threat to our country.
It’s not just about the fact that the Wall Street led de industrialization and Main Street destruction, has gutted our middle class and ensured income inequality has reached a level that can never be reversed. It is also the fact that the Chinese will never be a “fair” trading partner, and have been engaged in a literal war with us for decades now. They will never back down, and the damage already done may very well make it impossible for us to ever win this war.
Insanely, they are the only ones fighting, while we do nothing but get kicked in the balls again and again. After every kick, we bow politely and give thanks.
I completely agree with everything you said, but I have also heard since China buys a huge amount of our debt they have the upper hand on our economy. I don't know if that is true, but if it is, just another reason to elect people like DeSantis who actually want to balance budgets or run a surplus. Trump is his own worst enemy when he pushes thru a RINO budget, but yet wants to ween us off of China.
"Wall Street may not like it, but America's complete decoupling from Chinese trade is both morally and economically sound in the long term."
Fair enough. But in the short term, does it make sense? Don't we have to do something about key dependencies (e.g., rare earths) ***before*** we de-couples?
I knew all that
It will take probably a decade to transfer the ability to manufacture all that we buy to other friendlier countries. If we shut things off immediately, all of our everyday things will get very expensive. China makes consumer goods for the world, so there are no other suppliers ramped up to go to in the short run. Decoupling from China will have to be done smartly, but maybe we must do it.