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Same propaganda playbook as Iraq, except the warmongers have switched jerseys to the Democrats.

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Look, they brazenly flaunt insider trading, you really think they care about spending out tax money wisely? By the time anybody will know what appended some 20yrs after, these scumbags will be retired with a big pension and lots of dark money from all the fevers they did for others being payed back to them when they leave office. Look at Obummer, and how they get the money from bankers. They all need to be arrested and all there assets confiscated with bank accounts

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It’s all about funnelling tax money back to the politicians. All the news is propaganda coming from the msm

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I can't even imagine the amount of taxpayers' money exchanging hands with politicians and their cronies. Oh, wait, it's atleast $60 billion thus far and nobody even knows where the money is going for sure. There is ZERO accountability. You can bet atleast 10% to "The Big Guy!" 🤣🤡

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Good summary of much of what is so wrong/nefarious/dangerous/evil presently! 😑 😣

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The cringeworthy WW2 comparisons seem especially compelling in the U.K - and not just in this instance. I’ve head U.K peeps describe declining to wear a mask or get the Covid shots as equivalent to “leaving a light on and your curtains open during the Blitz”.

Strewth!

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The Dimwit Democrats simply see MONEY in Ukraine, via arms manufacturers, backhanders and of course, China thanking them for weakening Russia, which is a huge obstacle to their plans. Vile Americans have been meddling in Ukraine for ten years but tell their dumb populace that Russia is the bad actor. The reverse is true. AMERICA, STAY OUT OF POLITICS, YOU'RE CRAP AT IT.

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Jordan keeps repeating his uninformed personal opinion that Ukrainians are somehow split between Russia and Europe. This opinion is not based in reality. I’ve spoken to dozens of Russian-speaking Ukrainians who fled the 4 occupied regions (that had the fake referenda 2 weeks ago) to central and western Ukraine because they DO NOT want to live under repressive Russian occupation. The will to NOT live under Russian occupation is overwhelming in the 4 Russian-speaking regions currently illegally occupied by Russia.

Your continuous negative focus on Ukraine definitely makes me question how truly independent your thinking process is - there are so many other things going on domestically and internationally yet Ukraine is your go-to scapegoat for almost every problem. You haven’t said a single word about the horrible state of civil liberties in Russia (simply saying THE WAR will land you in jail in Russia) or the war crimes Russia is committing in Ukraine this week by indiscriminately bombing civilians.

According to the latest fact sheet from the DoD, the US has committed $16 billion worth of military aid to Ukraine to date. So your claim about “tens of billions of $” being sent to Ukraine is not true.

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Oct 12, 2022·edited Oct 12, 2022

Bizarre comment. This is anecdotal nonsense. Sure some Ukrainian nationalists may have fled. But millions want to be with Russia over the current repressive Ukrainian government. There is also nothing else currently going on in the world that has the potential to lead to nuclear war. Peace must be the focus.

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Again, you’re repeating the fake claim that “millions” want to be absorbed by Russia. A decade ago the country was about evenly split between having friendly relations with, NOT being absorbed by, Russia, and things have dramatically changed since 2014 and 2022. I urge you to talk to a few affected people yourself, since your default reaction was flat out denial when confronted with reality that doesn’t fit the narrative you’ve obtained via consuming propaganda from the internet. Your knee jerk reaction to label anyone who wants to live in Ukraine as nationalist is deeply disturbing. One family I spoke to from Soledar (Donetsk region) doesn’t even speak Ukrainian, yet they moved to central Ukraine after Russians destroyed the house they lived in peacefully for decades! How are they Ukrainian nationalists if they don’t even speak Ukrainian?

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Not fake. This is just foolishness. Why did (and still do) bars in Lviv have a special drink celebrating murdered pro-Russian Ukrainian women and children in the Donbas? You need to educate yourself about what has happened to the people in those regions to understand why millions do not in fact want to be ruled by this Ukrainian govt. You also need to educate yourself about what is happening now to those that voted to be absorbed by Russia. There is no good side on this conflict. Btw, many Ukrainians actually only speak Russian, including the refugees I had in my house for 3 months.

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Regarding “There is no good side on this conflict”…

Russia invaded Ukraine, not the other way around. Russia is threatening Ukraine with nuclear weapons because it didn’t achieve its delusional dream of Ukraine giving up in 3 days, not the other way around. Russia is indiscriminately bombing civilian areas where Russian-speaking population lived peacefully for decades who now are fleeing to central and western Ukraine. Russia conducted fake referenda overseen by heavily armed Russian soldiers in areas that overwhelmingly voted for Zelensky in 2019 with at least 83% support.

If you seriously trust the results of the fake referenda, I’m not sure I can come up with any logical arguments to make you return to reality from propaganda-land.

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You don’t actually believe any of this do you. You think this war started with a Russian invasion in February? LOL. “Russia is indiscriminately bombing civilian areas where Russian-speaking population lived peacefully for decades….” WTF, seriously. You’re simply wrong on the facts and the history. Again, educate yourself or stop trolling the work of legit journalists like Schachtel. You are repeating talking points of insane leaders and institutions feeding the war machine and not addressing any of the atrocities on Ukrainians in the East. We need the sides to negotiate and come to peace terms to save precious lives on all sides. There is no need for WWW3. Maybe start with these to educate yourself:

https://martyrmade.substack.com/p/can-we-talk-about-ukraine

https://theduran.com/jeffrey-sachs-end-ukraine-proxy-war-or-face-armageddon/

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It's very well documented how the US was interfering in Ukraine for at least a decade. Poking Russia is a bad idea, they take threats very seriously as they lost around 25 million people in WW2. So, what's your favourite US foreign policy murderfest? Vietnam? The Balkans? Iraq? Syria? Libya?

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Good question. Answer; none of the above including this one. Don't trust Putin either he is a WEF young leaders graduate too.

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I've heard this WEF thing about Putin, where's the evidence, it sounds ridiculous.

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Do a little search engine work if you are truly curious. I did and it changed the way I thought about this whole mess. What if Putin is just another actor in the play, doing what he is told? This possibility is a game changer and makes this mess even more confusing. As I said in an earlier post "there are no good guys here when innocent civilians are suffering and dying"

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Also no mention of the rash of "suicides" among prominent Russian businessmen since the invasion. Putin was head of the KGB and not a choir boy. Both sides of this war are in it for ego and personal gain. There are no good guys when civilians die and suffer. We should not be funding either side. We are 31 trillion dollars in debt.

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If the US had kept their grubby hands out of Ukraine, none of this would be happening. The US should focus on sorting out its vast, dysfunctional, f*cked up, weird country...before China just walks in.

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A little strange that the bio labs spread all around Ukraine that we funded are not being talked about anymore. Neither side has mentioned them for some time now.

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Excellent points, I agree with.

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A good idea when surfing the web or doing ‘search engine work’ is to use some common sense at spotting planted nonsense.

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