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Dollyboy's avatar

I wish I understood all the fuss with AI. It hasn’t improved my life whatsoever. What does it do that’s so great? Honest question. I expect the answer is going to be that AI makes many of the nefarious aspects of life more so. I suspect that living a good happy life would not require AI at all.

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David's avatar

I think this is a fantastic question. My understanding of the valuation of the AI industry is that it is downstream of all of the potential labor savings that the technology will employ, ie, value of AI=potential to remove human work. I am sure there are some potential non zero benefits, but AI has become the bubble that will probably pop the larger bubble that is our whole economic system. I think it is prudent to question whether AI is worth what is being invested in it. I’m not sure that AI is linearly scaleable like they assume, meaning I think that the compute ROI on energy, data centers and chips will decrease as they scale up due to hallucinations, and training on hallucinated data. We don’t fully understand how LLMs work and we’re going to beef up our power grid (maybe use 30-50% of total energy by 2040)and plug em in just to find out what will happen. I wouldn’t want to be an investor holding 20 year NVIDIA debt let me put it that way.

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MissLadyK's avatar

Doesn’t want to recognize Tiananmen Square. Can’t be that great. Retarded AI?

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Tina Stolberg's avatar

While the tech gurus and billionaire investors are beside themselves with glee, unless someone tells me how AI, an energy-sucking, content-stealing, privacy-pirating waste of precious billions can help people afford food, buy a house, send their kids to college, or even fix the damn potholes on my street, forgive me but I don't give a shit.

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Te Reagan's avatar

Why do we need an emergency order to help billionaires build AI Data Centers. Water and energy hogs. I don’t get it.

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SD's avatar

Because the USA and the rest of the west have just had their eyes blackened by the Chinese releasing over fifty AI models that are equally if not more capable than the ones the US and others have been developing. A number of which do not require specific chips (Nvidia) to perform at the same level. Gotta keep the market strong and the dollar stronger. What people see and hear, gives them confidence to keep their investments in America and western companies.

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David's avatar

To be fair I think the entire AI industry is filled with pump and dumpers and fraud and their press releases have much more to do with the need for capital than truth. But for you to swallow the DeepSeek stuff hook line and sinker is pretty sad. What incentive does DeepSeek have to represent the facts? Can we verify the cost claims of DeepSeek? If we could, how could we do that? Can we prove China doesn’t have NVIDIA H100s (I can buy them online)?

Everyone is such a sheep and they listen to every word bottle fed to them.

GROW UP and be a bit more cynical me wee lad.

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Te Reagan's avatar

I almost feel like this is another Solandra grift. I don’t trust it at all. Also, that theranos lady comes to mind.

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SD's avatar

I do not disagree with the first sentence.

As for the rest. I stated a simple fact based on the information I had at hand from various sources. Then you lost your credibility by trying to insult me, not unexpected from those who have no real argument. I would suggest the only person who needs to grow up is yourself.

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Mary Ann Rollano, RN's avatar

All the while data for AI comes from others work. If someone profits from the labor, ideas, or personal data of others, fairness demands that those contributors be recognized and rewarded. AI is marching on and tech companies are making money basically from stolen information.

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SD's avatar

So mechanisms being put in place since ChatGPT and others have been hit with a class action for using copyright material in their learning models. The push is now on to force any company using AI to make their learning model Open Source and the content available for scrutiny. Most are already open source LLM's that anyone can scrutinise. The bigger players are the problem and Deepsink which is Chinese, well they won't care if they hoover up information that is not theirs.

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David "JC" Penny's avatar

Artificial Ignorance is not intelligent. It's GiGo with an exponent.

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SD's avatar

I can generate training material in much less time if needed. When the same task can take four hours for each hour of learning in the adult learning space. Now why would any sane person not take advantage of a system that enables streamlining and cost savings of that magnitude. Enabling me to take on more work, make more money and have a better work/life balance if I choose to not take on the extra work, I still get paid for the final package all the same.

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David "JC" Penny's avatar

Nothing new about automating a process with a computer: I wrote my own Mail-merge in DBase II more than 40 years ago. SQL has been around for decades. The only difference with AI is the amount of resources that are consumed to run it (exponentially greater).

Artificial Ignorance does not create training material. You create the algorithm, it generates output. If your input sux or it's data source sux, the output sux. You already know how to generate training material so you know what the output should be. Many current and likely nearly all people in the near future employing AI generative algorithms never bother to know what the output is supposed to be... it's assumed that AI is all powerful.

Take a look at many of the articles with a 'content creator' by-line yet generated by AI that have glaring errors, omissions and lack even the semblance of intuitive thought.

The problem with any automated process such as "generating training material" is that if the user doesn't know how to [or simply doesn't bother to] check it, you get garbage. aka Ignorance.

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SD's avatar
Jan 28Edited

I am not disagreeing with you, AI is just another tool in the box mate just like SQL, C++, Python and Linux, all just tools. I do not need to create any complex algorithm, whether it is a content outline or a complex scenario from material I already have or I want to use. I can throw an SOP at it and ask it to map it for me using relevant images. I can get it to knock out a course outline based on the competencies I am training to. Like I said, anything that saves me time developing.

My training is aligned to national competency requirements and subject to audit at any time, no different to having to QA SQL to make sure it does not output non compliant garbage.

We either embrace change, learn how to make it work for us or we turn our back on it, while the rest of the world leaves one behind. I have no intention of being left behind.

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JerryB's avatar

"DeepSeek has open-sourced its software under an MIT license"

Is that the same MIT who got $ from Jeffrey Epstein, $ from Bill Gates to make implanted drug delivery, had a Chicom spy on the faculty, and forced faculty, staff, and students to inject the bioweapon while their prof Langer made $1billion with Moderna? That MIT? A criminal, utilitarian, woke, money grubbing enterprise.

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Crixcyon's avatar

While I am not outwardly supportive of communist China, it appears they have taken a lead in A/i and that has shaken up the communist US. I no more trust China than I do the US. A/i is going to be the ultimate digital prison warden with no escape no matter who is the top doggie. Like the Internet, it is not here to serve you, but to serve the global masters.

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Allison Gilliland's avatar

Glenn Beck’s Radoio show’s first 45min was on DeepSeek this morning. His experience with it realtime on-air was riveting!

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Ferg ferguson's avatar

Competition is good. CCP has never told the truth about anything…I’m sticking with Nvidia..buying more. Elon too.🥳

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Tanto Minchiata's avatar

There’s a lot of hype right now. Some of this depends on what you’re trying to get the AI to do. For companies looking to automate processes or for communications it will be a money saver. It has a lot of applications. Some jobs will be lost to AI. Others will be created because of AI. But AI is happening and ignoring it is like saying you want to continue to ride your horse while everybody else is driving a car.

AI is evolving. 10 years from now it will be much more sophisticated than we can imagine.

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irish's avatar

artificial idiocy needs banned much as big pharma needs banned. just more benjamin's in the pockets of losers.

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Ruth Gordon's avatar

Buy the dip.

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