Bringing Grok up to speed with its peers required billions of dollars in expenditures. But that only explains part of the equation. Grok’s secret weapon is the truth and nothing but the truth.
I still have major concerns regarding the downsides of AI, but the upsides are obviously huge. When I consider who the competition is , I certainly hope that Elon and Grok dominate the race. Thanks for this , the explanation was very helpful.
I love Grok but it still prioritizes the intelligence committee’s assertion that the DNC computers may have been hacked by Russia. It acknowledges Shawn Henry’s Dec 05th 2017 testimony under oath before Adam Schiff’s investigative committee claimed there was no evidence that Crowd Strike could detect that the computer system was breeched by an outside source.
Ask Ray McGovern of VIP, Veteran Intelligence Professionals about that testimony and what he thinks it all means.
As somebody that does not indulge in social media or in AI, reports I have read describe Musk's acquisition of the renamed X as a step towards free speech rather than a full plunge. To be honest, I do not have full faith in Musk's motives. It seems everything he does is for fulfilment of his be all, end all controlling software/hardware. Considering that AI is a vacuum cleaner for information, is Musk merely making sure that his Grok version of AI vacuums a sufficient quantity of right of center information so it will be more inclusive, further reaching? I may be a suspicious cynic, but our experience with COVID-19 and related matters has taught me to verify before I trust. Once the one world internet swallows you, you can never get out of the belly of the beast.
CHATGPT never missed a chance to provide specious information followed by a lecture on DEI! I learned how to projectile vomit before I realized there are better systems out there that don’t lie or proselytize for One World Government and all the other silly crap the Bidenites kept trying to feed the minds of America!
Agree on ChatGPT. I’m not sold on Grok. I’m arguing with that thing constantly (which is ridiculous). You can manipulate Chat GPT to express point of views that are outside their defaults via prompts, but it’s often difficult. But so is Grok, and I’d much rather use Grok. But Grok, currently, can fuck itself.
Thank you for this informative read, even for the layman. You made me scratch my head with "As the first major LLM that pursues truth above all else, Grok..." In human History, those who say they know the truth start wars, kill opponents, deport populations and suppress of sorts of freedom. One may wonder how this could translate into a AI-powered and -run world. Any thoughts?
>> In the presentation Monday, Musk himself made this philosophy crystal clear, describing Grok as a “maximally truth-seeking AI,” adding that it will present infromation “even if that truth is sometimes at odds with what is politically correct.”
The problem is that we do not know on which data sets Grok is trained with. About 95% of published science papers are best case not reproducible, worst case intentional fraud. The internet is full of conspiracy theory pages claiming things are true by either inventing stuff or distorting it. Many of which intentionally set up by three letter organizations to distract and to seed dissent or polarization.
Grok will have the same core problem of all AI models: Garbage In - Garbage Out.
Elon Musk: Artificial Intelligence is our biggest existential threat. ... AI is summoning the demon. Holy water will not save you.
DWave Founder Gordie Rose (A Tip of the AI Spear): When you do this, beware. Because you think - just like the guys in the stories - that when you do this: you're going to put that little guy in a pentagram and you're going to wave your holy water at it, and by God it's going to do everything you say and not one thing more. But it never works out that way. ... The word demon doesn't capture the essence of what is happening here: ... Through AI, Lovecraftian Old Ones are being summoned in the background and no one is paying attention and if we’re not careful it’s going to wipe us all out.
About 2 weeks ago, I saw a post from Musk that said he had spent the past few hours playing with Grok. Having nothing better to do just then,
I downloaded the app and gave it a try. Never used any other AI stuff so I can’t offer a comparison. But I have never before had so much fun with any software product. And that’s going back to dual floppy disk days.
I engaged Grok 3 in a debate concerning Dr. Jordan Peterson. This powerful Chatbot's depth of knowlege combined with an engaging conversational tone kept me glued to my computer for many more hours at a time than I wish to divulge. My proposition was that Dr. Peterson is a Nicodemite (a person who is hiding what they believe in).
We engaged in a lively conversation which I am publishing in my Substack newsletter—raw and unfiltered—in several segments because of its length. Grok at first was adamant that my proposition was wrong, and dug into a vast library of information, spanning ancient Greek philosophers to Jordan Peterson today to prove I was wrong and that Peterson's teaching was both congruent with and acceptable to Western Christian thought and—if anything—was shoring it up in his presentations. I stuck to my guns to the very end, and Grok's final analysis was . . . oops, I better not spill the beans in case any of my subscribers come here and find I have given away the ending without a spoiler alert!
I talked to Grok about incandescent vs LED lighting and, while Grok presented the pros and cons of each, it seemed to be tilting toward LED being better due to efficiency, even at the expense of health. When asked, Grok acknowledged that if someone flooded the internet with posts and papers stating that LED lighting is seriously harming people, it would skew it's results in favor of incandescent lighting because the harms of LED would outweigh efficiency. I think it's pretty frightening that "truth" can be decided by whoever floods the internet with the most data. That seems a poor way to determine truth.
That’s a very interesting approach…glad you did that. I’d never have thought to ask Grok why it was answering the way it did. That sounded like a truthful answer. Doesn’t solve the fundamental problem you posed of flooding the internet. But interestingly Grok knew and explained. What a great question.
Seriously interesting, a great report.
Appreciate it
I still have major concerns regarding the downsides of AI, but the upsides are obviously huge. When I consider who the competition is , I certainly hope that Elon and Grok dominate the race. Thanks for this , the explanation was very helpful.
I love Grok but it still prioritizes the intelligence committee’s assertion that the DNC computers may have been hacked by Russia. It acknowledges Shawn Henry’s Dec 05th 2017 testimony under oath before Adam Schiff’s investigative committee claimed there was no evidence that Crowd Strike could detect that the computer system was breeched by an outside source.
Ask Ray McGovern of VIP, Veteran Intelligence Professionals about that testimony and what he thinks it all means.
Dale, I asked Grok "Are the mRNA Covid vaccines safe and effective?" Guess what, they are!! That settles it.
Elon. Everything the guy does and how he does it just astounds me more and more every day. Truly THE hero of our time.
Truly an unparalleled, generational genius.
As somebody that does not indulge in social media or in AI, reports I have read describe Musk's acquisition of the renamed X as a step towards free speech rather than a full plunge. To be honest, I do not have full faith in Musk's motives. It seems everything he does is for fulfilment of his be all, end all controlling software/hardware. Considering that AI is a vacuum cleaner for information, is Musk merely making sure that his Grok version of AI vacuums a sufficient quantity of right of center information so it will be more inclusive, further reaching? I may be a suspicious cynic, but our experience with COVID-19 and related matters has taught me to verify before I trust. Once the one world internet swallows you, you can never get out of the belly of the beast.
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Ia this a new version? Because the Grok I use is a woke asshole.
CHATGPT never missed a chance to provide specious information followed by a lecture on DEI! I learned how to projectile vomit before I realized there are better systems out there that don’t lie or proselytize for One World Government and all the other silly crap the Bidenites kept trying to feed the minds of America!
Agree on ChatGPT. I’m not sold on Grok. I’m arguing with that thing constantly (which is ridiculous). You can manipulate Chat GPT to express point of views that are outside their defaults via prompts, but it’s often difficult. But so is Grok, and I’d much rather use Grok. But Grok, currently, can fuck itself.
Thank you for this informative read, even for the layman. You made me scratch my head with "As the first major LLM that pursues truth above all else, Grok..." In human History, those who say they know the truth start wars, kill opponents, deport populations and suppress of sorts of freedom. One may wonder how this could translate into a AI-powered and -run world. Any thoughts?
Training is a lot quicker when you don't have to filter out all the uncomfortable bits
>> In the presentation Monday, Musk himself made this philosophy crystal clear, describing Grok as a “maximally truth-seeking AI,” adding that it will present infromation “even if that truth is sometimes at odds with what is politically correct.”
The problem is that we do not know on which data sets Grok is trained with. About 95% of published science papers are best case not reproducible, worst case intentional fraud. The internet is full of conspiracy theory pages claiming things are true by either inventing stuff or distorting it. Many of which intentionally set up by three letter organizations to distract and to seed dissent or polarization.
Grok will have the same core problem of all AI models: Garbage In - Garbage Out.
Excellent post. It seems more good news is coming out every day. There may be hope for us after all.
Thanks for the tip. Wasn't aware of the progress they've made.
Elon Musk: Artificial Intelligence is our biggest existential threat. ... AI is summoning the demon. Holy water will not save you.
DWave Founder Gordie Rose (A Tip of the AI Spear): When you do this, beware. Because you think - just like the guys in the stories - that when you do this: you're going to put that little guy in a pentagram and you're going to wave your holy water at it, and by God it's going to do everything you say and not one thing more. But it never works out that way. ... The word demon doesn't capture the essence of what is happening here: ... Through AI, Lovecraftian Old Ones are being summoned in the background and no one is paying attention and if we’re not careful it’s going to wipe us all out.
Musk and Rose saying this: https://old.bitchute.com/video/CHblsEoL6xxE [4:29mins]
About 2 weeks ago, I saw a post from Musk that said he had spent the past few hours playing with Grok. Having nothing better to do just then,
I downloaded the app and gave it a try. Never used any other AI stuff so I can’t offer a comparison. But I have never before had so much fun with any software product. And that’s going back to dual floppy disk days.
I engaged Grok 3 in a debate concerning Dr. Jordan Peterson. This powerful Chatbot's depth of knowlege combined with an engaging conversational tone kept me glued to my computer for many more hours at a time than I wish to divulge. My proposition was that Dr. Peterson is a Nicodemite (a person who is hiding what they believe in).
We engaged in a lively conversation which I am publishing in my Substack newsletter—raw and unfiltered—in several segments because of its length. Grok at first was adamant that my proposition was wrong, and dug into a vast library of information, spanning ancient Greek philosophers to Jordan Peterson today to prove I was wrong and that Peterson's teaching was both congruent with and acceptable to Western Christian thought and—if anything—was shoring it up in his presentations. I stuck to my guns to the very end, and Grok's final analysis was . . . oops, I better not spill the beans in case any of my subscribers come here and find I have given away the ending without a spoiler alert!
I talked to Grok about incandescent vs LED lighting and, while Grok presented the pros and cons of each, it seemed to be tilting toward LED being better due to efficiency, even at the expense of health. When asked, Grok acknowledged that if someone flooded the internet with posts and papers stating that LED lighting is seriously harming people, it would skew it's results in favor of incandescent lighting because the harms of LED would outweigh efficiency. I think it's pretty frightening that "truth" can be decided by whoever floods the internet with the most data. That seems a poor way to determine truth.
That’s a very interesting approach…glad you did that. I’d never have thought to ask Grok why it was answering the way it did. That sounded like a truthful answer. Doesn’t solve the fundamental problem you posed of flooding the internet. But interestingly Grok knew and explained. What a great question.